TTC: Scarborough Busway Construction (portion of the former Scarborough RT route)

[smallspy]

Something I'll never get, why so many "express buses" in that area make every single local stop!

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Because the idea of those types of express service was that everyone was loading at a single (or very few points), going a great distance, and then getting off at a group of stops at the far end. (And vice versa, of course.)

This is the same mentality that GO uses for its rush hour express services, as do a lot of commuter agencies.

Dan

 

[turbanplanner]

945: Because the 45 alone has appalling frequencies.

960: because at rush hour the 60 doesn't run west of Pioneer Village. Who cares if it's branded as the 60 or the 960? You would get the same service levels anyway, it's just what they're labelled as that's different.

The 45 runs at a minimum of 10 mins (often much more frequent) except for the wee hours

 

[T3G]

The 45 runs at a minimum of 10 mins (often much more frequent) except for the wee hours

On the combined corridor south of Belfield. But north of there it runs every 20 (!) minutes during rush hour.

 

[turbanplanner]

On the combined corridor south of Belfield. But north of there it runs every 20 (!) minutes during rush hour.

This is a pretty frequent schedule imo?

From Kipling

And Rexdale blvd

 

[T3G]

The schedule from Kipling shows the combined frequency of the 45A and 45B branches and doesn't give a true picture of conditions along either branch - hence, my previous post. If you need to go to points south of Belfield you're fine. Doubly so if you need to get somewhere along the express route.

From Rexdale Boulevard... that's an odd one, and it doesn't really match the posted service frequencies of the service summary, especially in the 1 pm hour (I wonder if those are trippers for some employer somewhere along the route). But here it is straight from the horse's mouth, as it were:

 

[Bordercollie]

Can someone explain why building a busway is going to take two years? And why they waited so long to start building it?

 

[yurt2022]

Can someone explain why building a busway is going to take two years? And why they waited so long to start building it?

Well a year was lost due to the TTC's incompetence in failing to perform a TPAP to make changes to the corridor.

Also new design features needed to be incorporated such as barriers between the ROW and the Stoufville corridor GO tracks as per request by Metrolinx.

Also general lack of political will to fast track this project.

 

[Bordercollie]

Well a year was lost due to the TTC's incompetence in failing to perform a TPAP to make changes to the corridor.

Also new design features needed to be incorporated such as barriers between the ROW and the Stoufville corridor GO tracks as per request by Metrolinx.

Also general lack of political will to fast track this project.

Unacceptable.

 

[turbanplanner]

Unacceptable.

So was the derailment but here we are :/

 

[Bordercollie]

So was the derailment but here we are :/

But even without the environment assessment was completed they could have started the demolition to save time. Now he busway will only be used for a year before the subway opens

 

[turbanplanner]

But even without the environment assessment was completed they could have started the demolition to save time. Now he busway will only be used for a year before the subway opens

How much are we betting things will open on time?

Also, if they go through with the plan for block signaling (then tearing it out for ATC AFTER the line opens) The busway might still get a decent amount of use later on

 

[Bordercollie]

How much are we betting things will open on time?

Also, if they go through with the plan for block signaling (then tearing it out for ATC AFTER the line opens) The busway might still get a decent amount of use later on

The point is we need it now.

 

[yurt2022]

But even without the environment assessment was completed they could have started the demolition to save time. Now he busway will only be used for a year before the subway opens

Oh its going to be used for much longer than a year...

 

[nfitz]

But even without the environment assessment was completed they could have started the demolition to save time. Now he busway will only be used for a year before the subway opens

I think the 2027 opening date for the extension vanished once MetroHicks took over.

 

[Pilot342]

Current plans are to have the busway remain after the opening of SSE.

That is very good. I live at Lawrence and Midland and before the Scarborough RT shut down I always took the RT over the slow and infrequent 57 bus.

Coming home at midnight is an absolute pain with the 57 bus as it's frequencies is 20-30 minutes at 12am compared to the 6-7 minutes with the Scarborough RT.

Now with the express bus service on Midland Ave I never take the 57 bus as it's a lot slower now. 57 bus really needs 10 minute service all day everyday to be useful.

If they had actually gotten rid of the busway in the future I would just get a car because the infrequent 57 bus is very annoying. It's super frequent during rush hour but outside of that it's not.