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TTC 'sardine experience' looms

In the last 5 years the police and transportation budget have continued to increase at high rates compared to the TTC. The budget committee with Socknaki and Watson are always talking about the bottomless hole of the TTC and how it needs to become more efficient. Socknaki has told me us that the police budget is out of his hands so don't look there. Although he will be quick to talk about how the roads are crumbling and his constituents are concerned with crime the only thing he mentions about transit is cutting costs. He says that people in his ward are autodependent (perhaps he means the people who vote for him and attend ratepayer meetings).

Sylvia Watson has much less excuse since Parkdale is very dependent on transit. When I first spoke to her when she was running about transit and walking, she said "well I drive". She has since moved to the ward and purchased a bike, but still votes against transit whenever it comes up.

As for crowded service..
When one of the Amercan Segway representatives came to make their case for sidewalk riding at the Toronto Pedestrian Committee meeting. The lobbyist mentioned that everyone could ride them to the bus or subway. He said that they are so small that they would take up less space than a person, requiring only about 60% more space, and that transit usually has lots of spare capacity. As some folks looked at him like he was crazy, Saundercook (a big segway fan) wondered what the guy said wrong.

Context: what makes sense in Dallas or Minneapolis is not necessarily transferable to other cities. Let's hope this segway rep changes his pitch before he heads to New York or Tokyo.
 
To add what green said...

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The budget committee with Socknaki and Watson are always talking about the bottomless hole of the TTC and how it needs to become more efficient.
They're correct though. The TTC is a bottomless hole which requires an increasing operating budget to maintain the same capacity levels.

A TTC bus stuck in traffic is very inefficient. Long trips made by riders make the TTC inefficient. The problem is the TTC has very limited control over the aspects that make it inefficient.

It is the traffic engineers (ROWs, congestion charges, etc.) and the city planners (built form, work areas near residential, etc.) who have the reigns to make the TTC efficient.

Most of the Ridership Growth plan is a myth. By the time the buses arrive they will be required simply to maintain the same level of service as a result of increased congestion and traffic levels.

Projects like St. Clair are ridership growth.
 
They're correct though. The TTC is a bottomless hole which requires an increasing operating budget to maintain the same capacity levels.

The inefficiency of the TTC is representative of council. If they were serious about finding inefficiency they would find it rather than starving the TTC for tax dollars. Maybe they need to track down Gunn and bring him back if they are not going to push TTC managers to look at efficiency. Something tells me that part of the reason the stations look so dirty is that those maintenance workers trudge around like they are barely awake and have noenergy to do their job. I watched them clean the walls of a station once and I have never witnessed such laziness and lack of care.

It is the traffic engineers (ROWs, congestion charges, etc.) and the city planners (built form, work areas near residential, etc.) who have the reigns to make the TTC efficient.

Projects like St. Clair are ridership growth.

Agreed.
 
From the Star:

Link to article

Crush on TTC getting worse
62 routes are close to capacity
$5M to target rush-hour services
Jan. 26, 2006. 07:00 AM
KEVIN MCGRAN
TRANSPORTATION REPORTER

The TTC will go ahead with $5 million in service improvements to give passengers more breathing room on its crowded buses, streetcars and subways, heeding staff warnings that 62 routes were in serious danger of overcrowding.

The TTC will use the money to add rush-hour service — possible with the delivery of 100 new buses this year — even as TTC commissioners wrestle with a budget shortfall of $13.1 million.

"Pack away your plans to buy extra deodorant, you don't have to go on a diet to ride the TTC this year," joked TTC chairman Howard Moscoe.

But the transit system still has to find a way of resolving its budget shortfall, made worse by a jump in ridership.

"Fare hikes is something we have to look at every year, but I'm not going to make a commitment at this point in time," Moscoe said. "We're hoping Premier (Dalton) McGuinty or (prime minister-designate Stephen) Harper will charge in on a white horse and save us again this year." It has become an annual event for TTC officials.

Last year, for the first time in years, the TTC drew more riders (430 million) than anticipated (424 million) but service didn't keep up with demand. The service level has been the same since 2001, when ridership was forecast to be 420 million, but came in at about 410 million after 9/11.

"We've been basically flatlining (service) since 2001," said Mitch Stambler, the TTC's manager of service planning. "Our service is basically lagging behind ridership."

For 2006, ridership is expected to top 437 million and is on its way back to its 1988 peak of 463 million. That means the TTC could choke on its success.

Patrons might argue that is already happening. "Usually at night, I have to wait for a second subway to get home," said Michelle Montesano while waiting for the subway at Union Station last night. Her trip home is delayed by at least 15 minutes each evening, she said.

Lucas Ruminski said he often has to wait for a second subway in the morning. "I get on at College going north, it's impossible."

Overcrowding leads to uncomfortable rides. It takes longer to load and unload buses and streetcars, putting those vehicles behind schedule and reducing reliability, which could force commuters to abandon transit.

"People want to have a reasonable chance at getting a seat, and they want to be able to get to the door without having to fight their way through," Stambler said, while making the case to preserve the $5 million in service improvements to commissioners at their meeting yesterday.

With ridership taking off, buses meant to hold 57 people sometimes held 80. Sometimes people get left behind. Complaints about crowding are also markedly up, Stambler said.

"There will be increased service," Moscoe said. "We're getting new buses, we're adding service. That just helps us meet our existing standards. It doesn't help us go forward."

The city is about $500 million short of balancing its $7.7 billion budget. Trying to do its part, the TTC slashed about $50 million from its 2006 spending, most of it in a private session prior to the public meeting. "Juggling our books," Moscoe called it.

TTC officials have said they are determined to avoid the mistakes of the 1990s when budget cuts caused fares to rise, hurt service and led to plummeting ridership levels.

"The truth of the matter is public transit in this country is underfunded. We've gotten a few crumbs from the provincial government, a few pennies on the gas tax and five (cents) from the previous federal government," Moscoe said. He believes Harper will come around to the urban agenda.

"I'm sure the Conservatives realize if they want to appeal to urban voters, they have to have an urban agenda," Moscoe said. "The Harper urban agenda amounted to the equivalent of a couple of sesame seeds at the bottom of an empty cracker box and that's not good enough to attract votes."

The TTC yesterday also approved the hiring of 11 special constables in September to beef up security. The TTC will also approach Toronto Police Services to see if cadets — who are unarmed — could patrol subways, streetcars and buses in tandem with the constables.

with files from Naomi Carniol
 
I boarded a westbound train at St George station at 6:30 PM today and let me tell you, I wasn't pleasant. There was a whole bunch of people at the station waiting to board an already crowded train - maybe 30 people per door and only 5 lucky ones got in, myself included.
 
Time to get that DRL underway. Weston-Don Mills line here we come :D
 
www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs...0599119419


TTC becoming a Catch-22 for riders
Public encouraged, but money is short

TTC plans to pay $5M to cut crowding
Jan. 27, 2006. 01:00 AM
KEVIN MCGRAN
TRANSPORTATION REPORTER


We want more people to take public transit. We just can't afford it.

When public policy on transit clashes with financial reality, commuters — who happen to be taxpayers — pay the price. They are caught in traffic that's only getting worse, or crammed into buses, streetcars and subways that are becoming increasingly crowded.

Improving transit service costs money, and even relatively small sums of money can be a big problem for both the Toronto Transit Commission and the city, neither of which ever seems to have enough. The TTC is $13.1 million over budget, part of a $532 million city budget deficit. Nonetheless, it insists it will go ahead with $5 million worth of service improvements to help passengers deal with crowding.

But transit advocates believe that's not enough — that without significant funding increases, the TTC will choke on its own success as ridership spikes beyond the transit authority's expectations due to a hot job market in downtown Toronto, the rising price of fuel and new frills to the Metropass that have turned it into a hot seller.

"There is always a temptation with budget crunchers to make do, to get by until next year," said Steve Munro, a member of the advocacy group Rocket Riders and founding member of the Streetcars for Toronto group.

"We have been down this path before. It brought us falling ridership, huge cuts in service and declining maintenance and safety standards.

"I have watched over 30 years of lost opportunity for short-sighted planning and funding decisions in Toronto," Munro said. "If we are real serious about the future of our city, we have to make real, long-term commitments to transit."

Munro is most pointedly not talking about billion-dollar megaprojects — like new subway or rapid-transit lines. Instead, he wants new money for lower-ticket items — like new buses, fare incentives and service improvements — to plan for ridership growth.

"We have 20 years of subway plans floating around, but we have no equivalent for the rest of the system," Munro said. "People want better service on their bus routes and they want it now. Grand schemes are fine ... But people want better service. Nobody's addressing this problem."

Since 2001, the TTC had planned on service levels to carry 420 million passengers and hasn't added rush-hour service since. Now the TTC plans to beef up service this year to deal with an expected 437 million passengers.

Without the service improvements, 62 routes — on such major streets as Eglinton, Lawrence, Finch, Steeles, McCowan, Brimley, Keele, and Jane — would have been at risk of being seriously overcrowded.

"It's crowded, no question," said TTC chief general manager Rick Ducharme. "That's why we can't let it go any further."

For the TTC, reducing crowding increases reliability, which has a two-pronged effect:

The more reliable the service, the more it will be used.

Any increases in reliability lessen the amount of time vehicles need to travel their routes, saving the TTC time, fuel, maintenance and labour costs.

To be fair, the TTC and the city are pursuing some low-cost alternatives to improve transit reliability and they could do more, but the pro-car lobby often objects. The options include:

Most streetcars in the city have some control over traffic signals. They'll stay green, or turn green, as the streetcar approaches. This technology is available for buses but is not widespread.

Banning left turns at all hours would increase streetcar reliability. But banning left turns angers shopkeepers and motorists, making it politically risky.

Transit-only lanes are also a cost-effective alternative but are proving difficult to implement. The TTC has big plans to run streetcars in their own right-of-way down the middle of St. Clair Ave. W., but a grassroots group is taking the TTC to court to stop that plan.

Early in the St. Clair process, the TTC made a public-relations mistake by being honest: Officials said by improving the reliability of streetcars, they could carry the same number of riders with fewer streetcars. Critics pounced, saying the TTC was ruining their neighbourhood and planned to cut service.

"Current traffic conditions and the way we operate in mixed traffic is a problem for us," said Mitch Stambler, the TTC's manager of service planning. "We can always add more streetcars, but pouring them into a black hole of mixed traffic doesn't accomplish much.

"We need to find ways to give transit clear priority on roads that are very heavily congested."

The long-term solution is long-term funding, said TTC chair Howard Moscoe. Taxpayers may not like it, but public transit is a money-loser. Every rider is subsidized. But at about 40 cents per rider, the TTC is the least subsidized transit system on a per-rider basis in the Western Hemisphere.

The TTC gets 80 per cent of its operating revenue from the fare box — tops in Canada — compared to 61 per cent for NYC Transit, the biggest system in the United States.

Moscoe said the TTC must make its case with prime minister-designate Stephen Harper, the same way it did with outgoing PM Paul Martin, who promised cities they would receive gas-tax money for transit.

"I think Mr. Harper is going to be a very clever prime minister," Moscoe said. "He has to address the needs of our city. And the needs of our city is sustainable funding for public transit."
 
Taxpayers may not like it, but public transit is a money-loser.
It doesn't need to be. $4B in expansion or improvement capital targetted in the right way could pretty easily make the TTC a money maker in the operations budget with improved service and the same fare (adjust for inflation) within 15 years including construction time.

Every existing route with more than 20k daily ridership should get a ROW at all choke points whether bus or LRT.

Then, something as simple as triple platforming Bloor through St. George on the Yonge lines (Union, King, Queen, Dundas, College, St. Andrew, Osgoode, Bay, St. George, and Bloor stations) might even do it all by itself because of reduced dwell time at those stations. Growth would likely fill the additional capacity quickly
with very little additional operations overhead.

Yes, I do expect they would need to build something like the DRL before shutting down parts of the Yonge line for the station rebuilds.

Strangely enough, the $4B to operational self stability project would be paid off within 10 years once successful based on subsidy savings alone -- not to mention indirect economic impact.
 
The long-term solution is long-term funding, said TTC chair Howard Moscoe. Taxpayers may not like it, but public transit is a money-loser. Every rider is subsidized.

Why is Moscoe the chair again? Every car driver is subsidized too. When they say the farebox recovery is 80% is that including costs like repairing streetcar tracks, station maintenance, new tunnel liners, etc?
 
Why is Moscoe the chair again? Every car driver is subsidized too. When they say the farebox recovery is 80% is that including costs like repairing streetcar tracks, station maintenance, new tunnel liners, etc?

Daily maintenance and repair is included. Large replacement projects (like the streetcar track rebuilds) is in the capital budget.
 
From the Star:

Link to article

Time is money
Jan. 28, 2006. 01:00 AM
TONY WONG
BUSINESS REPORTER

Joseph Heath thinks it's an extraordinary sight when he drives on Toronto's Don Valley Parkway at rush hour and sees what he describes as a preponderance of expensive automobiles all stuck in gridlock.

Many of those vehicles are headed to the Bay Street offices that populate Canada's financial heartland.

"It's kind of crazy to think that you have all these Mercedes and Lexuses going downtown, and you think to yourself `why are all these lawyers and stockbrokers sitting in traffic with the rest of us, since presumably their time is worth money?'" says Heath, a philosophy professor at the University of Toronto.

"How is it with all of their wealth, they have not yet managed to organize their lives in such a way as to avoid sitting in traffic for an hour or more each day?"

Heath's question is as fundamental as it gets. Whether they're caught in traffic jams on our roads or watching passing subway trains that are so crowded they can't hold another passenger, commuters are losing time that adds up to lost productivity and competitiveness.

According to the preliminary findings of a Transport Canada report, traffic congestion alone saps at least $3.7 billion out of the nation's economy annually. The study, which adds up the cost of lost productivity due to increased travel times and use of gasoline, looks at nine major cities, including Toronto.

"Lateness can be a significant source of stress and reduced productivity," says Stéphane Côté, assistant professor at the U of T's Joseph L. Rotman School of Management. "The later you get into work the less you get done, and it all adds up."

Multiply that by the thousandsof people affected by a major train or traffic delay and the effect on the economy can be huge.

"One missed business meeting can potentially be a huge monetary loss," Côté says. "And there are less direct effects. The uncertainty created in being late creates stress which can impact not just yourself, but your boss who may be depending on you, so there is a ripple effect in the workplace."

With an aging road system and an old transit system, Toronto is at a crucial crossroads. As the city grows larger with urban sprawl, lobbyists for roads are locked against advocates for transit, each trying to get a shrinking piece of the government largesse.

The result is an unhappy medium where neither road nor transit user comes out on top. Businesses end up being the big loser as they depend on workers to put in their time in the office, not the subway.

"Dealing with lateness is an inevitability for managers," says human resources consultant Daphne Lyons. "When you have chronic lateness because of a poor transportation system, it can really add to the bottom line."

On Wednesday, the TTC budgeted $5 million in improvements to service to give passengers a little more room.

According to internal staff reports, 62 routes are in serious danger of overcrowding.

Some subway stops and streetcars are so overcrowded that transit users frequently have to wait for the next car, making them late for work. The new Toronto Transit Commission initiative is aimed at tackling problems at the crucial rush hour, although the system still has a $13.1 million budget shortfall.

But some say that much more is needed to overhaul the TTC before it becomes a further drag on the economy.

Gord Perks calls his daily TTC streetcar ride his "morning mosh pit."

"The TTC as a business is fraught with dangers. What other business can increase their price and reduce their service and still expect to stay in business?" asks Perks, the founder of Rocket Riders, a transit advocacy group.

While his 15-minute ride remains relatively unchanged, the wait times to get a streetcar have gone from as little as five minutes to as much as 20 minutes."That's unacceptable, especially when you consider that Toronto is the economic engine of Canada," Perks says. "The delays end up costing everyone."

And there is another problem with lateness. The unpredictability of roads and transit means that it creates far more down time in the system than most people would think.

"You would be crazy to leave for the Toronto airport at rush hour because you're not sure you're going to make the plane on time. So you go earlier and you end up wasting time in the airport lounge," says Heath. "There is no way to figure out exactly how long trips are going to take."

Managers can deal with lateness by ensuring there is more flexibility in work policy, says Rotman's Côté.

"It's not seen necessarily as a negative to come in later, given the kinds of traffic we have on the roads, as long as there is the understanding that the employee will make up the time. You don't punish people for being late to create that additional stress as long as the work is done."

In many cases employees are still putting in the hours, but their leisure time suffers because of congestion and leaving work earlier or later to avoid bottlenecks.

"This all creates additional stress which may come back to hamper productivity," Côté says. If this becomes chronic, stress can also lead to illness and time off from work.

Some businesses have tried to fight the problem by relocating their offices to where people live. "If you're not a big financial institution and you don't need your headquarters downtown, then maybe it's cheaper to move to the suburbs where your workers already are," Lyons says.

Heath has a more radical, and unpopular solution to cure traffic congestion. He advocates placing tolls on highways such as the Don Valley Parkway.

"Roads are congested because they are free. If we gave away cheese for free, too many people would eat cheese," Heath says.

"You have to change the psychology of driving. Once you're aware of how much something costs, it really changes your habits. The problem with the TTC is that it's up against something that is perceived as free."

Despite pondering about traffic and other issues as a philosopher, he actually finds himself in a rather cheery scenario.

Heath doesn't have to worry about traffic because he walks to the University of Toronto campus from his downtown home.

But this is not necessarily the answer to relieving stress from being late at work. Not everyone can work in the same neighbourhood as their spouse, and living downtown can be extremely costly.

"It's not the solution for everybody, because you end up having to pay an astounding price for a house downtown instead of being late and having a lower-cost home in the suburbs," Heath says. "But I must say, it does work."
 
The TTC sucks.
What crap. I bet the TTC employees drive to work.
 
I think I will pass on your invite to a forum which looks like biased opinions with pure speculation rule the day. What about the TTC sucks exactly, what improvements would you like to see, what evidence do you have that most TTC workers don't use transit, does your bet include TTC drivers that have a shift at the start or end of the day and if so can the driver realistically be expected use transit to get to work because transit services haven't started yet.

If you are simply here to advertise your blog or forum then perhaps you should be banned.
 
Well aren't you the welcome wagon!>:
Bet your from the Beaches or Yorkville...|I
 

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