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TTC: Other Items (catch all)
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zang
Senior Member
My guess is more about the potential for causing costly damage if the CSA tries to restart an escalator that has stopped due to mechanical reasons (debris blockage, for instance). That doesn't mean the CSAs couldn't be trained to triage potential problems (or that escalators couldn't be reconfigured to sense if it's a simple button press stoppage vs. mechanical issue), but I suspect it's more than just "the elevator union demands they get to do this", when the CSAs are unionized, too.
Richard White
Senior Member
It is likely a TSSA concern.
If an elevator or escalating device does something outside the norm causing injury the TSSA requires it be shut down pending investigation. They probably don't want a station collector restarting it when someone could potentially have gone sideways down an escalator.
To give context, I once had to shut down an esclator because someone thought they could make it down in their wheelchair (no I am not joking) from the SRT platform at Kennedy. They hit every step on the way down and were most certainly injured.
In those types of circumstances, an investigation has to take place to determine what happened and if it was a mechanical issue or not. You can't have someone turning on the escalator or elevator because everyone is yelling at you.
jmi22
Active Member
For the uninitiated....could you spare a hint?The only clean station on the network is Bessarion... because you know... (IYKYK)
Richard White
Senior Member
Likely because nobody uses it lol
jmi22
Active Member
Ah, thought it was some TTC execs local stop.
Not that many of them ride the system.
Northern Light
Superstar
On station cleanliness, the TTC doesn't routinely publish the station by station results, though they;re around somewhere.
The last time I'm aware of them releasing the full data was 2017.
Bessarion didn't make the best/worst list.
dailyhive.com
The last time I'm aware of them releasing the full data was 2017.
Bessarion didn't make the best/worst list.
Ranked: The TTC’s 10 cleanest and dirtiest subway stations | News
If you thought Woodbine Station looked a little dirty on your last visit, it's because it probably was, according to the TTC's latest cleanliness audit.
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jmi22
Active Member
Islington being nowhere in the top 10 dirtiest tells me everything I need to know about the accuracy of this list lmao
Richard White
Senior Member
This list is from 2017 when the station was still somewhat clean. Keep in mind, back then it was heavily used by both MiWay and TTC
jmi22
Active Member
Ehhhh, the pigeon poop alone would have earned it a spot on the list, even if there wasn't a speck of dirt in the place otherwise. But ya it's worse now, I took a pic on the platform a few weeks ago that looked nearly apocalyptic I'll see if I can find it.
urbanclient
Active Member
I think once the Concord condos near the Canadian Tire are finished, Bessarion ridership will grow. Leslie, Rosedale and Summerhill could start competing for the title of least used station.
nfitz
Superstar
Huh ... I was in Dundas West on Tuesday, and literally stopped walking down the platform to admire how clean the walls looked, and how bright the station looked. Floors obviously a bit dirty with the snow.
The new (well not anymore) LED lighting in the triangular casing certainly makes it look better than the dingy old lighting you still have on some platforms.
Still, it's all fantastic compared to some other world-class cities. NYC comes to mind. I wasn't blown away in Chicago either.
drum118
Superstar
Its under construction with hording. Have said that, it has been a poor station for decades and never look clean looking in that timeframe.
No it will not based on how many towers have been built there so far. It will be about another 10-15 years before it is completed based on the current Market. Kings Landing may change that when owners move in this year, but don't expect many will use the station. It has been a dead zone since day one.
Lot of the top worse 10 station would be in the top 10 clean station in Europe or even NYC.
T3G
Senior Member
Kennedy, too, is absolutely revolting. If it's not pigeon goo everywhere it's suspicious fluids dripping down on you from God knows where.
Where in Europe, exactly, are things so bad that a station like Islington or Kennedy would make their top 10 most clean stations list? I'm calling shenanigans.
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T3G
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Two questions pertaining to the Flexity Outlooks:
1) I went by Roncesvalles yard today and spotted car 4568 parked in the deadline. 4568 is the car that got a little too intimate with a garbage truck on St. Clair on July 26, 2022, and has been sitting out of service ever since. For most of that time since, it has been sitting outside, ever since they began the 8 year body rebuild program at Hillcrest. That's a lot of snow fall cycles. At what point does that amount of snowfall start to cause issues with the structural integrity of the vehicle's roof? I fully realize that these machines are built to withstand some amount of abuse, I'm just wondering how much is too much. I doubt that anyone is going up there and shoving the snow off.
2) Why is it that in the Flexity era, it takes so long to make a decision about repairing a vehicle? 4534 is another one that's been gone a long time - it had a collision on Queen Street on January 19, 2023. As far as we know from data compiled on the CPTDB, neither of these cars have had anything resembling repair work done to them yet. What is taking so long? I realize that repairs of damaged vehicles take time, but 3-3.5 years to not even decide if you're going to fix the car or not seems really excessive. In the CLRV era the turn around time on collision repairs was a lot faster.
1) I went by Roncesvalles yard today and spotted car 4568 parked in the deadline. 4568 is the car that got a little too intimate with a garbage truck on St. Clair on July 26, 2022, and has been sitting out of service ever since. For most of that time since, it has been sitting outside, ever since they began the 8 year body rebuild program at Hillcrest. That's a lot of snow fall cycles. At what point does that amount of snowfall start to cause issues with the structural integrity of the vehicle's roof? I fully realize that these machines are built to withstand some amount of abuse, I'm just wondering how much is too much. I doubt that anyone is going up there and shoving the snow off.
2) Why is it that in the Flexity era, it takes so long to make a decision about repairing a vehicle? 4534 is another one that's been gone a long time - it had a collision on Queen Street on January 19, 2023. As far as we know from data compiled on the CPTDB, neither of these cars have had anything resembling repair work done to them yet. What is taking so long? I realize that repairs of damaged vehicles take time, but 3-3.5 years to not even decide if you're going to fix the car or not seems really excessive. In the CLRV era the turn around time on collision repairs was a lot faster.