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What would be the point of checking people seconds after they've just seen them pay to get through the fare gates?
Other than on rare occasions seeing someone, usually a teenager, intentionally quickly follow through another before the gate closes, these don't seem to be the easier or typical places for most fare cheaters to enter the system.
 
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SubHuman said:
What would be the point of checking people seconds after they've just seen them pay to get through the fare gates?
Other than on rare occasions seeing someone, usually a teenager, intentionally quickly follow through another before the gate closes, these don't seem to be the easier or typical places for most fare cheaters to enter the system.
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I don't see any point in checking adults if they have just tapped.

But the others ... or if they couldn't see.
 
SubHuman said:
What would be the point of checking people seconds after they've just seen them pay to get through the fare gates?
Other than on rare occasions seeing someone, usually a teenager, intentionally quickly follow through another before the gate closes, these don't seem to be the easier or typical places for most fare cheaters to enter the system.
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Can't speak for the TTC but on the GO it's very inconsistent. I've stepped onto the train and they didn't check till the doors closed despite being next to be.

Other times I was checked TWICE in 30 seconds by 2 people standing next to eachother and have the presto record somewhere to prove it.
 
nfitz said:
I don't see any point in checking adults if they have just tapped.

But the others ... or if they couldn't see.
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SubHuman said:
What would be the point of checking people seconds after they've just seen them pay to get through the fare gates?
Other than on rare occasions seeing someone, usually a teenager, intentionally quickly follow through another before the gate closes, these don't seem to be the easier or typical places for most fare cheaters to enter the system.
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They may be trying to check out for people using cards with discounted fares on them they don't qualify for? I know it makes a different sound, but they might not always be able to hear it or discern whose card tap made what sound when there's a large crowd passing through multiple gates at the same time. They could even challenge on that and ask you to prove your name is the one registered on the card.
 
Children 12 and under ride the TTC for free and can use a PRESTO card to tap and board. While the card itself is not free (there's a service charge and a minimum loading fee), children aged 6-12 can have a PRESTO card loaded with a free child fare, enabling them to ride the TTC subway, streetcar, and buses for free. Children under 5 ride for free without a PRESTO card when accompanied by a fare-paying adult
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POO may ask for proof of age, should one use a child, student, or senior PRESTO card.
 
Jonny5 said:
They may be trying to check out for people using cards with discounted fares on them they don't qualify for? I know it makes a different sound, but they might not always be able to hear it or discern whose card tap made what sound when there's a large crowd passing through multiple gates at the same time. They could even challenge on that and ask you to prove your name is the one registered on the card.
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I've been told that the cards are totally interchangeable - as long as it's the right category. I didn't provide names when I got my kids card registered. Only birthdates.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
POO may ask for proof of age, should one use a child, student, or senior PRESTO card.
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Do you know many 12 year olds who carry ID?

That said, my daughter has a child fare presto card, and you better believe that station attendants' heads turn quickly to look when they hear the very distinct sound it makes when it's tapped.
 
zang said:
Do you know many 12 year olds who carry ID?

That said, my daughter has a child fare presto card, and you better believe that station attendants' heads turn quickly to look when they hear the very distinct sound it makes when it's tapped.
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12-year olds who look older than they may be, can get a special TTC card from their school. I did that for my first, because she looked 14, but not my second, who looks 10.

Not that they've ever been checked.
 
nfitz said:
12-year olds who look older than they may be, can get a special TTC card from their school. I did that for my first, because she looked 14, but not my second, who looks 10.

Not that they've ever been checked.
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School ID cards/Student ID should include date of birth for ID purposes. They may not.
 
nfitz said:
School ID cards? I've never seen one for primary school (other than that special TTC one for 12-year olds that is request-only). They have them in high school - but that's not an issue for the under-13 rule.
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I've seen teenagers getting on a bus trying to say they are under 12. No POO to ask for proof of age, so they continued onto the bus.

I remember getting an elementary school (not secondary) ID with a photo. Should include a date of birth on them.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
I've seen teenagers getting on a bus trying to say they are under 12. No POO to ask for proof of age, so they continued onto the bus.

I remember getting an elementary school (not secondary) ID with a photo. Should include a date of birth on them.
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Now the media will have a backlash if they arrested a kid for fare evasion. Parents will be outrageous. The best they can do is kick them off the bus.

They should really set the eligibility to either include all middle school or none at all. Not in the middle of grade 7 which means half the class gets to ride for free while others have to pay.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
I've seen teenagers getting on a bus trying to say they are under 12. No POO to ask for proof of age, so they continued onto the bus.

I remember getting an elementary school (not secondary) ID with a photo. Should include a date of birth on them.
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Walter: I think the world has changed a bit since you were in elementary school!
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
I remember getting an elementary school (not secondary) ID with a photo. Should include a date of birth on them.
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I remember mandatory Lord's Prayer, bible readings, and the whip in Ontario (public) elementary school - and even I'm not old enough to have seen photo ID!

I'm not really sure the point - seems trivial and unnecessary. Looking at some of my sons female Grade 7 classmates, some look 16 or older in my eyes. It's not that easy to tell.
 
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