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To add to this, I want to point out that when I visited NYC back in 2022, I virtually never sat down on the subway unless my legs were really tired. Simply put, it was genuinely painful to sit on for longer periods of time, and I would sometimes leave the train with jelly legs because of the reduced bloodflow. Like, anything but plastic seats please.
As opposed to absorbing your sweat? And how would it stick to your skin through your clothes (which the vast majority of riders would be wearing)?
The fabric in question (TTC) doesn't fall under that category.
The R46s have almost the exact same seating arrangement as the TTC.
That doesn't mean we can't be accommodating, especially on longer routes (like Lines 1/2). Even if we accept the idea that pain from plastic seating is caused by medical factors on the user's side, may I remind you that this is public transportation, meant to be used by everyone from your young and active freshman high school student, to an aging 75y/o grandpa whose legs are about to give way. Its especially important in the latter case since the people who need seats the most are often folks that have some medical conditions and don't have the energy to stand around all day.
I'm not some 20 year old with perfect mobility and health. Comfortable seats, like the ones on the TR and T1, are what enable many people to continue to use the TTC.
Here is the Notice re Melinda https://www.ttc.ca/service-advisories/construction-notices/King-Station---Melinda-exit-closure
I find it ridiculous that some would actually argue the current fabric seats are more comfortable than vinyl or bench seats, using some far-fetched excuses like "seats sticking to your backside" (if you're wearing clothes, and the seats still stick to you, that means your clothes are stuck as well and you probably should be more concerned about that). Guess now we know the real reason vinyl seats would get torn is not because of vandalism, but because of people trying to get up and "accidentally" tearing the vinyl because it got stuck to their backside and wouldn't let go
/s.Amount of underground subway (heavy rail) added between 2000 and 2025:
They are. Fabric seats feel softer and warmer to the touch, especially in colder weather. Fabric-covered seats include some degree of padding, offering a slight cushion that improves perceived comfort. Fabric tends to absorb sound and vibration better, making the experience quieter and less jarring.
If your definition of wearing clothes means a Burqa, then you have a point. But in reality not everyone is in a three piece suit on the subway in the summer.
