Richard White
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Came across this at Warden tonight.
Thought y'all may find it interesting.
Thought y'all may find it interesting.
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drum118
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Improvements coming to TTC’s 501 Queen streetcar service this weekend
Nov. 6, 2024
With the completion of track and overhead work on Adelaide, Richmond and York streets, the TTC will improve 501 Queen streetcar service between Neville Park and South Etobicoke starting this Sunday, Nov. 10.
The TTC worked in partnership with Metrolinx and the City of Toronto to build the new tracks, allowing for a short streetcar diversion around Ontario Line construction at Queen and Yonge streets. The 501/301 Queen streetcar will operate along Queen St., diverting east via Adelaide St. and west via Richmond St., and connecting to Queen at Church St. and York St.
The diversion eliminates the need for TTC replacement buses in the area while providing 501/301 Queen customers with an uninterrupted connection to both sides of Line 1 at Osgoode and Queen stations and across the downtown core.
The new tracks also create additional streetcar diversion options in the downtown core for things like emergencies, events such as TIFF and planned streetcar infrastructure work.
“Making transit more efficient is a major priority for the City, and I am pleased that the TTC is able to restore 501/301 Queen streetcar service along the Queen St. corridor while Metrolinx works to build the Ontario Line,” said Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow. “We know that construction can be challenging for Torontonians, but the restoration of this service will make it easier for residents to navigate the downtown core.”
“The TTC, City of Toronto and Metrolinx continue to work collaboratively to improve transit in Toronto, while reducing the impact of construction on residents,” said TTC Chair Jamaal Myers. “I want to thank everyone who worked to get this long-term diversion in place and ensure that customers continue to have direct connections to Line 1.”
“Restoring the streetcar service on the Queen St. corridor not only allows for an uninterrupted customer journey but also improves efficiency for customers,” said TTC Interim CEO Greg Percy. “This routing allows for the restoration of service as close to Queen St. as possible, while making allowances for Ontario Line construction.”
“Vital transit improvements like this happen when all partners come together under a shared vision. We look forward to continued, close collaboration with our driven and dedicated partners at the City of Toronto and the TTC as we bring the Ontario Line and so many other important transit projects to life for the people who live and work in this dynamic city,” said Phil Verster, President and CEO of Metrolinx.
As of Nov. 10, the 501/301 Queen streetcar will no longer operate via Spadina Ave., King St. and Church St, and the 501B/301B replacement bus service will no longer operate.
Nov. 6, 2024
With the completion of track and overhead work on Adelaide, Richmond and York streets, the TTC will improve 501 Queen streetcar service between Neville Park and South Etobicoke starting this Sunday, Nov. 10.
The TTC worked in partnership with Metrolinx and the City of Toronto to build the new tracks, allowing for a short streetcar diversion around Ontario Line construction at Queen and Yonge streets. The 501/301 Queen streetcar will operate along Queen St., diverting east via Adelaide St. and west via Richmond St., and connecting to Queen at Church St. and York St.
The diversion eliminates the need for TTC replacement buses in the area while providing 501/301 Queen customers with an uninterrupted connection to both sides of Line 1 at Osgoode and Queen stations and across the downtown core.
The new tracks also create additional streetcar diversion options in the downtown core for things like emergencies, events such as TIFF and planned streetcar infrastructure work.
“Making transit more efficient is a major priority for the City, and I am pleased that the TTC is able to restore 501/301 Queen streetcar service along the Queen St. corridor while Metrolinx works to build the Ontario Line,” said Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow. “We know that construction can be challenging for Torontonians, but the restoration of this service will make it easier for residents to navigate the downtown core.”
“The TTC, City of Toronto and Metrolinx continue to work collaboratively to improve transit in Toronto, while reducing the impact of construction on residents,” said TTC Chair Jamaal Myers. “I want to thank everyone who worked to get this long-term diversion in place and ensure that customers continue to have direct connections to Line 1.”
“Restoring the streetcar service on the Queen St. corridor not only allows for an uninterrupted customer journey but also improves efficiency for customers,” said TTC Interim CEO Greg Percy. “This routing allows for the restoration of service as close to Queen St. as possible, while making allowances for Ontario Line construction.”
“Vital transit improvements like this happen when all partners come together under a shared vision. We look forward to continued, close collaboration with our driven and dedicated partners at the City of Toronto and the TTC as we bring the Ontario Line and so many other important transit projects to life for the people who live and work in this dynamic city,” said Phil Verster, President and CEO of Metrolinx.
As of Nov. 10, the 501/301 Queen streetcar will no longer operate via Spadina Ave., King St. and Church St, and the 501B/301B replacement bus service will no longer operate.
evandyk
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I’ve noticed a new thing at Broadview station where the 504 pulls in and a 4-5 person cleaning crew breezes through with brooms and cleaning cloths. Nice initiative. Wonder if the new CEO gave a directive. It reminds me of Japan. (In a very small way.)
Northern Light
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This was started under Leary actually.
Its a once a day thing mid-run, crew is there a bit after morning rush til afternoon rush.
I don't know if they stopped it for a bit, I haven't seen them there in awhile, but I'm not usually there mid-day.
I believe its weekday only, but don't hold me to that.
* Also, I get your allusion to Japan, where cleaning is often done in decent sized teams. This includes station work.
They all come in at once, and work away, at speed, til the assigned work is done then on to the next.
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evandyk
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I’m only there weekdays just after/before rush hour (9ish and 4ish) so that checks out. I don’t think I’ve seen it before, but saw it both times I was here in the last week, so I thought it was new.
Richard White
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I've seen them there at 8 am.
drum118
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Nov 8
Not a fun day using TTC starting with Kipling where I waited 25 minutes for a train to only sit for another 6 minutes before moving. The next westbound train was at Islington when we arrived and another waiting to get to the station. Based on the lack of riders on the platforms going east, looks like a few trains got short turn to fill that large gap in front of my train. We sat for another 2 minutes at Jane and St George to allow for service adjustment.
At Broadview, the next vehicle sign said 7 minutes for a 505 and 10 for 504 with the 505 showing up sooner, but was delay in loading by the 2 person cleaning crew and driver disappearing is was around noon. Got on the 505 as I was only going to Dundas. As we sat there, a 504 pull in and did a quick stop and go before its schedule time.
Saw a number of 506 playing follow the leader in both dictions.
Got on a 506 heading to Main east of Broadview, but only made it to Carlaw where it went out of service. The next vehicle sign said 7 minutes for the next one and 33 after the first one. When that next car show up, it was out of service with the driver saying there was a medical emergency at Main and no idea what was plan for the line east of Carlaw. 15 minutes later, a bus show up for the 506 that allow me to get off way before Main. It must been one of the 501 buses that became 506.
As for cleaners, there used to be a crew at Kipling and been a long time I seen they that clean the trains as they arrived.
At Kipling, crew were preparing to install rebar in the existing sidewalk edge to allow pouring of the new sidewalk over the tunnel.
As of November 19, the south parking lot is to be close which is odd as they were working on that area from what I could see from the platform unless that is a 2023 noticed with no year on it or I miss it.
Not a fun day using TTC starting with Kipling where I waited 25 minutes for a train to only sit for another 6 minutes before moving. The next westbound train was at Islington when we arrived and another waiting to get to the station. Based on the lack of riders on the platforms going east, looks like a few trains got short turn to fill that large gap in front of my train. We sat for another 2 minutes at Jane and St George to allow for service adjustment.
At Broadview, the next vehicle sign said 7 minutes for a 505 and 10 for 504 with the 505 showing up sooner, but was delay in loading by the 2 person cleaning crew and driver disappearing is was around noon. Got on the 505 as I was only going to Dundas. As we sat there, a 504 pull in and did a quick stop and go before its schedule time.
Saw a number of 506 playing follow the leader in both dictions.
Got on a 506 heading to Main east of Broadview, but only made it to Carlaw where it went out of service. The next vehicle sign said 7 minutes for the next one and 33 after the first one. When that next car show up, it was out of service with the driver saying there was a medical emergency at Main and no idea what was plan for the line east of Carlaw. 15 minutes later, a bus show up for the 506 that allow me to get off way before Main. It must been one of the 501 buses that became 506.
As for cleaners, there used to be a crew at Kipling and been a long time I seen they that clean the trains as they arrived.
At Kipling, crew were preparing to install rebar in the existing sidewalk edge to allow pouring of the new sidewalk over the tunnel.
As of November 19, the south parking lot is to be close which is odd as they were working on that area from what I could see from the platform unless that is a 2023 noticed with no year on it or I miss it.
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This (undated) notice just appeared on TTC website. Not sure what their old procedures were but these seem pretty standard to me
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I note that the TTC now have the new Route map up for the 501 and they seem to be REALLY cutting back on stops!
Eastbound it stops at Queen and University (Osgood Station) and then not again until Adelaide and Yonge followed by Church at Queen.
Westbound it stops at Queen at Jarvis, Church at Richmond, Richmond at Yonge and Queen at University (Osgood Station).
At least a stop at Bay would seem like a good idea in both directions and a stop at or near Adelaide & Church going eastbound..
Eastbound it stops at Queen and University (Osgood Station) and then not again until Adelaide and Yonge followed by Church at Queen.
Westbound it stops at Queen at Jarvis, Church at Richmond, Richmond at Yonge and Queen at University (Osgood Station).
At least a stop at Bay would seem like a good idea in both directions and a stop at or near Adelaide & Church going eastbound..
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I also looked at the actual 'schedules' and though they do sometimes omit stops from maps, I think the schedules normally have them all.
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I think the stop list for routes on the TTC website is data-driven, from the same database.
In reality though, I've seen for 506 detour busification (particularly for one they've not done before) them add a stop or two within a day or two of operations beginning, when the flaws become apparent. Especially if they missed a transfer point (the Bay bus comes to mind).
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Forgetting about stops is excusable, maybe, for a short-term diversion route - this one will be in effect for about 3 years!