T3G
Senior Member
New York has issues, but I would say that besides the frequencies offered on many services off peak (taking the R train was the bane of my existence) and overall cleanliness the system feels superior to Toronto's. I would definitely not say it is unpleasant, though indeed the level of comfort offered is below that of many European metros.New York's transit system is unpleasant overall. Stations and trains have improved in the last 2 decades, but remain a level below Toronto, never mind Stockholm or Seoul.
But for all of its issues with cleanliness, I much rather sat down on their seats than the ones we have on the TTC.
I'm not sure the comparison of restaurants is the right one, as restaurants usually see many, many less people on a given day than the interior of a transit vehicle. Fast food restaurants of course have long since adopted harder seating, as have the doctor's clinics near me.Taking it to the logical extreme, you would like to remove all fabric seating from restaurants too, right? And surely doctor's offices and hospitals, filled with sick people coughing etc.
It is not merely about assisting those who are homeless or mentally challenged and giving them the care they need, though I'm sure this would make the overall problem of hygiene on transit seats much less severe. If someone puts their feet up on the seats, or spills something messy from food they're eating like ketchup, it's going to be a challenge to clean... if indeed anyone bothers (and I don't believe the solution to this problem is to ban food and drink on transit, that is far too wannabe mall cop for me). I did read once that GO rarely ever takes the cushions out from the trains for cleaning unless the grime has built up to such an extent it is highly visible on the chair.I'm not that paranoid. Yes we can look at fabrics that are anti-microbial and/or easier to wipe down; by all means lets talk about improved cleaning practices, and of course, lets offer assistance to those who are homeless or mentally challenged etc to provide them proper housing and care. But let's not reduce everything to 1990s food court seating. Ugh.
I respect your opinion and I agree with you on many issues but I don't think we're going to agree on this.




