turbanplanner
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Is this the first time they've done single track since ATC finished recently?
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EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
They have done that for a few months although I guess it's the first time since the whole line was. The last few times they had one train ruining between Lawrence west and Wilson making a stop both directions at Yorkdale. The last time they did it they said trains would run through although they ended up doing it with a shuttle train instead and having everyone change trains cross platform at Lawrence
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
What's with these plastic bus seats.
Northern Light
Superstar
What plastic bus seats?
APTA-2048
Senior Member
The TTC is testing all-plastic bus seats on two buses, each from a different supplier.
Northern Light
Superstar
Terrible idea. A way to drive riders away from the system, by making it less attractive and less comfortable.
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On a related note, the other day I observed that the TTC had replaced some ancient wooden benches on the bus platform at Main Street Stn.
They installed the standard metal benches they've been using in the subway for sometime.
Uhhh......metal outside is subject to extreme temperature variation, under direct sun it can burn exposed skin; and in winter its icy cold.
What were they thinking? Metrolinx already has sensible seating for its outside platforms using wood and plastic so they temperature doesn't vary nearly as much.
No wheel re-inventing required here.
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APTA-2048
Senior Member
That seems to be the general consensus amongst people I know.
I'm not really a fan of it either.
The TTC has tried non-upholstered seats in the past and also proposed them during the TR design phase. But it seems like it was never a popular idea. I guess with the backdrop of COVID cleaning procedures, they thought they would try again.
Northern Light
Superstar
Same old nonsense; the same way they routinely propose removing transverse seats before most subway car orders. But every time the public gets wind of it, it gets spiked.
At some point, you'd think they'd learn. The public considers the current 'comforts' as the minimum, not the maximum.
Most people would like to see more washrooms, more retail, more escalators (especially in stations that have none or don't have a full 'up' complement); and on trains, many would like to see experiments with high-back seats and arm rests and drink-cup holders.
The latter, I understand, can be a pain to keep clean; but arm rests would potentially solve certain issues on the TTC....... while adding a measure of comfort to boot.
drum118
Superstar
A number of systems in Europe have plastic seats going back to 2012 on my first trip then as well this year. This applies to all type of vehicles. Even seen wooden seats. Not that bad to sit on for long trips.
A lot cheaper to buy as well clean, especially with COVID these days.
A lot cheaper to buy as well clean, especially with COVID these days.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Why do we care about what Europe does? We can do better than a plastic seat on a bus if that's the norm there No body actually wants to sit on a plastic seat and if people think the current one is bad when they are wet a plastic one will be worse. As for using covid cleaning as a necessity, I think we are long past that at this point unless someone has data on the transmission from the bus seat.
drum118
Superstar
You can add the NA with plastic seats.
COVID is going to be around for a number of years and to clean seating is very costly as well take time to dry depending how they are clean. No one type of fix.
Cost to fix fiber seats or buy them is a lot higher cost wise than plastic or wood. Look at the seats where TTC had signs tap to they to see how bad they look with those signs gone today. All those seats need to be fix at great cost and wasted time doing so.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
yes, it's a terrible thing that most American transit does because they are cheap. we don't need to sink that low we can doer better and should.
what are you even talking about I asked if ther has been an tramision of it from siting on a buss seat which is why i wenat to know if they actully have to be cleaned for that pirples ort ifg its jus beig cheap like every tranist agbency in the US
The TTC does it internally and buys large amounts of fabric that it's doesn't cost as much to replace a seat cover. The only reason why you still have the ones that had the [pointles signs on them is becuse the rest of the fabric is fine and is'nt need to be replaced because of that
turbanplanner
Senior Member
Covid is spread almost entirely though aerosols, why are we wasting time spraying down seats more than the minimum?
drum118
Superstar
Ask TTC, as they know better and well above my pay grade
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
I'm not really sure they actually do. Since we haven't heard about anymore buses having cheap plastic seats put in them I hope they have gotten enough negative feedback on it. I think they did on twitter and Facebook when they mentioned it as a test as well.