micheal_can
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I have. Now, take that, plus the subway line,, and join them together. That is what I am asking about.
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I have. Now, take that, plus the subway line,, and join them together. That is what I am asking about.
WillTo
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salsa
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W. K. Lis
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Transfer issued on Highway 404 in Markham or Highway 402 in Sarina? So which is it?
robmausser
Senior Member
The problem is that the toronto streetcar system is all at the bottom of the system, so it makes it hard to show everything on a map.
W. K. Lis
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Definitely more complicated than Detroit's M-1 Rail (streetcar) & People Mover map.
drum118
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As a side note, Detroit's M-1 Rail start service May 12 night, with the official ribbon cutting and run earlier in the day. More to follow once plans are in place.
amnesiajune
Senior Member
Streetcars aren't rapid transit. Why should they be put on a rapid transit map?
nfitz
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
Why is the 195 Airport Rocket on a rapid transit map?
The 510 SPADINA, 512 ST.CLAIR, 509 HARBOURFRONT, and The Queensway section of the 501 QUEEN being on right-of-ways might be one reason. Ridership might be another reason. The problem remains that the Transportation Department (Roads) still see them as a vehicle (singular) instead of transporting a large number of people.
nfitz
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Presumably because it is rapid transit. The Yonge subway (Finch to Glencairn) in AM peak averages only 23 km/hr. Service maxes out at 32.4 km/hr early Sundays and late evenings. Line 2, 3, and 4 are no faster.
The 192 Airport Rocket is 42 km/hr in AM peak, maxing out at 51.2 km/hr late at night.
That's pushing twice as fast as subway at times. How isn't it rapid transit? It's transit. And it's more rapid than the subway. And runs more frequently than some subway lines I've taken.
steveintoronto
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That's the Croydon tramlink, and on average, it takes less time to get to Wimbledon than when the route was served by trains, especially if you take into account the service interval. The keyword is "light rail", which includes the Dockland Light Railway, although "light rail" has a different meaning in Europe than it does in North Am, same as "Rapid Transit". That being said, heavy rail in tunnel (Crossrail) in London and in other European capitols is by far the fastest way across cities. (Paris RER, etc)Ask London. They are the ones who did it.
This is rapid transit in London:
And here's a case of "trams" (which streetcars are). It's not the vehicle, it's the environment that limits speed, and some go even faster than this (San Diego Trolley zooms down to the Mexican border on mainline tracks, with very few stops)
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The tram operates at an average speed of 70km/h and is capable of running on multiple electric power systems with or without overhead cables. Citadis is a class of low-floor trams developed by France based... The tram operates at an average speed of 70km/h and is capable of running on...
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www.railway-technology.com/projects/citadis-trams/citadis-trams2.html
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
The 192 airport rocket is on the subway maps because the TTC wants to push it as an alternative to the UP EXpress.
nfitz
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Yes, I just like to point out how much faster it is than the subway!
See https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/tr...the_cheaper_if_not_faster_way_to_pearson.html
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
All rapid transit goes on those maps, not just rapid mass transit.