TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[T3G]

Who isn't minding one's own business? It was a disagreement between two people. We don't know what caused it.

All we know is that the two people were not known to each other, and the TTC employee pulled the first knife. Whatever the cause was, it's probably reasonable to say that it would have been smarter if she hadn't engaged with that person at all.

Surely the bigger issue is we've now got to the stage that TTC employees are starting knife attacks on customers that disagree with them!

I doubt we have reached that stage, it's probably just a standalone bad actor. But I don't disagree with you.

 

[turbanplanner]

Ok......so the TTC decided to have a meltdown today..............and boy is this a doozie.

Background, the TTC has already shuttered the downtown loop this weekend from Osgoode to College; and Line 2 from Warden to Kennedy.

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So I get to Main, no indication of a problem til I do, and subway is down from Victoria Park to Broadview due to signal issues.

That's 13 total stations with no service. And 5 more with service in only 1 direction.

Of course shuttle buses were ordered, but took ages to stand up.

***

Now, as I'm musing how this will effect my plans.....I'm commiserating with TTC staff who can't get to their buses due to lack of subway.

I'm told.............this is the third shutdown today............ there was a brief delay of a few minutes early in the morning due to a power failure.............. then another a couple of hours ago for 30 minutes due to a trespasser at track level.

Insanity.

I settle on my revised plans and go about my business.

Get to a different station later........inside screen says next bus in 20 (for a frequent route)............ outside screen says 'next bus in 5' .

I decide to wait........bus shows up after 4........... operator then summarily leaves to go stuff his face............ normally, I'm sympathetic staff, but my patience is wearing thin........operator gone 9 minutes, to the point where a mid-day Saturday run is jammed. While waiting, I see another bus of the identical service, not bother stopping in the station after dropping off, the operator just laps us and heads out empty. Gah!

Next route I catch (and thankfully last), the wait wasn't all that long.............but the buses arrived as a pair; on a route with a 10 minute headway.

Holy @#$@

I wonder how many of those showed on the delays page of the website, 90% of the time when there is a delay when I'm riding it won't show up or be announced

New display and announcement programming is rolling out on the TRs.
Notable changes:
- Full use of second display line to indicate transfers to other agencies or Subway/LRT lines (full name of the line is used as opposed to just Line #).
- Doors opening announcement happen twice, once when announcing next station and upon arrival.
- Doors opening text is in green along with the arrows which now flash instead of scrolling.
- Doors closing text is in red along with the arrows.
- Last station is referred to as the “Final station” as opposed to the “terminal station”
- TMU and Cedarvale stations now used.

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Why did they wait over a decade to enable this?

 

[nfitz]

I wonder how many of those showed on the delays page of the website, 90% of the time when there is a delay when I'm riding it won't show up or be announced

If it's not announced, it probably doesn't last long enough to do anything different, given the number of announcements that I hear that clear 3 or 4 minutes later.

It looks like these were all announced looking at https://x.com/search?q=line 2 from:ttcnotices&src=typed_query&f=live

The Victoria Park to Broadview was announced at 1:39 pm and cleared at 4:04 pm (ouch). I don't see the trespasser at track level listed, but there was 12:59 pmunruly customer at Spadina that cleared 1-minute later at 1:00 pm. And presumably the "power failure" was for the fire at St. George station that closed Broadview to Keele from 12:09 pm to 12:41 pm.

Now there was a trespasser on the track around Wellesley, at about 5:30 pm this afternoon - but that cleared in less than a minute.

Perhaps if Northern Lights tells us the station and bus number, we could check the data to see what went wrong.

 

[turbanplanner]

If it's not announced, it probably doesn't last long enough to do anything different, given the number of announcements that I hear that clear 3 or 4 minutes later.

It looks like these were all announced looking at https://x.com/search?q=line 2 from:ttcnotices&src=typed_query&f=live

The Victoria Park to Broadview was announced at 1:39 pm and cleared at 4:04 pm (ouch). I don't see the trespasser at track level listed, but there was 12:59 pmunruly customer at Spadina that cleared 1-minute later at 1:00 pm. And presumably the "power failure" was for the fire at St. George station that closed Broadview to Keele from 12:09 pm to 12:41 pm.

Now there was a trespasser on the track around Wellesley, at about 5:30 pm this afternoon - but that cleared in less than a minute.

Perhaps if Northern Lights tells us the station and bus number, we could check the data to see what went wrong.

Thanks for checking! I don't have twitter so I never see more than the most recent announcement.

 

[APTA-2048]

New display and announcement programming is rolling out on the TRs.
Notable changes:
- Full use of second display line to indicate transfers to other agencies or Subway/LRT lines (full name of the line is used as opposed to just Line #).
- Doors opening announcement happen twice, once when announcing next station and upon arrival.
- Doors opening text is in green along with the arrows which now flash instead of scrolling.
- Doors closing text is in red along with the arrows.
- Last station is referred to as the “Final station” as opposed to the “terminal station”
- TMU and Cedarvale stations now used.

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Is the out of service audio message also new? Maybe I just never heard it before.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

Is the out of service audio message also new? Maybe I just never heard it before.

The operators don’t always use it when going out of service but it has existed since they started using external announcements for the subway.

 

[evandyk]

My parents are visiting from Ottawa by train this morning. They had to walk to Osgoode, and enjoyed an empty train because there's no service at Union. Then they got to St. George and enjoyed an empty train because there was no service east of St. George. Nice for them, but would be nicer if the trains were working for everybody else.

 

[Archii]

My parents are visiting from Ottawa by train this morning. They had to walk to Osgoode, and enjoyed an empty train because there's no service at Union. Then they got to St. George and enjoyed an empty train because there was no service east of St. George. Nice for them, but would be nicer if the trains were working for everybody else.

Also trains are limited to 30 at all above ground sections because of snow ig? Has been like this for last 3 days (ie before the snow). Literally going half the speed on some sections on the university line...

 

[crs1026]

All we know is that the two people were not known to each other, and the TTC employee pulled the first knife.

"TTC employee who carried a knife at work" is ringing bells regardless of what happened or why.

- Paul

 

[max]

TorontoToday has a reporter who witnessed the incident:

https://www.torontotoday.ca/local/crime-emergency-services/ttc-employee-customer-accused-stabbing-each-other-dundas-station-11590086

By their account the stabbing followed the customer spitting in the face of the TTC employee.

The charges are interesting mostly similar, they both got charged with assault but the customer got three rounds and the employee just one. They both had possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, carrying a concealed weapon, and aggravated assault. The one that jumped out to me was that employee also has a charge for obstructing police.

 

[PL1]

Thanks for checking! I don't have twitter so I never see more than the most recent announcement.

If you use BlueSky, someone set up a bot to post TTC service notices (@ttcalerts). It's not official, but is useful.

I dropped X/Twitter when Musk took it over. I can't support that guy

 

[txlseries4]

If you use BlueSky, someone set up a bot to post TTC service notices (@ttcalerts). It's not official, but is useful.

I dropped X/Twitter when Musk took it over. I can't support that guy

Yes, it's really helpful. The very odd time it goes down, but here's the link: https://bsky.app/profile/ttcalerts.bsky.social
The City of Toronto and some of their divisions have joined Bluesky recently. Hopefully the TTC follows... the most recent post from ttcnotices on twitter I see is from 2023 lol

 

[nightstreak]

Wait a second… so they went through all the trouble to replace “Dundas” with “TMU” yet still kept Dundas on the sign?? What a gigantic waste of money

 

[DSCToronto]

Wait a second… so they went through all the trouble to replace “Dundas” with “TMU” yet still kept Dundas on the sign?? What a gigantic waste of money
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The signage is to help people know where they are and the station is ON Dundas Street - it would make no sense to keep that a secret - though it shows the stupidity of the whole renaming nonsense. T avoid confusion, it would actually make more sense to say Sankofa Square not Dundas Street but ......

 

[A.Malik.77]

Wait a second… so they went through all the trouble to replace “Dundas” with “TMU” yet still kept Dundas on the sign?? What a gigantic waste of money
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I think the Dundas Street re-naming has been dropped. TMU paid to get there name on this station. Why should TTC decline a free re-branding?