EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
fortunately they don't smell like that. All of them in the first week or so smell like a new car does.
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pstogios
Senior Member
I, for one, would love to see Bombardier fail.
Fail to deliver --> pay the price.
That's capitalism.
Except in this country apparently Bombardier can always get bailed out no matter how big they screw up.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
A new tender would be a waste of time. I wouldn't mind several additional steeetcars and/or several million in damages.
nfitz
Superstar
Personally, I'd rather see them succeed, so we get more sreetcars, sooner. Tired of the rush-hour sardining on the 504, and even the 506 some days.
TransitBart
Senior Member
My vote is for succeed. Wishing for someone's fail is Schadenfreude. Myself, I was taught that it's bad form to kick someone in the nuts when they're down. I'm not saying shield a company which fails to deliver from the consequences. I don't need to punish them. Their own actions are influencing the perceptions of the marketplace and they will have to live with those consequences.
Steve X
Senior Member
Clearly you're not affected by lack of streetcars.
Lack of streetcars means lower number of buses mean lower ridership carried and more people being late to their destination. The cost is passed onto the TTC and the city's economy. It has a systems effect with everyone's life and the city's health and development.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Ture but canceling the contract with Bombardier would mean they would have to putout new tenders again they can' just go to another company and say we didn't like what company x is doing so we want you to start work on new vehicles for us now. I think it got posted somewhere on here that Bombardier has a agreed to six additional cars on them for compensation but I'm not sure how true it is.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Don't you mean lack of streetcars means more buses on the roads? I think the TTC actually has a surplus of buses right now as they are keeping some that they were going to retire to run as streetcar shuttles on 502, 503 and 511
nfitz
Superstar
Not true. TTC cuts service on several bus routes next week, because they don't have enough buses, because they've had to use so many to replace streetcars. Start reading the descriptions at http://www.ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Service_changes/index.jsp for service reductions.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
ehlow
Senior Member
What are your thoughts on the Spadina line now that it's all new streetcars?
Overall I find it's a huge improvement with double the train size, all door boarding, low floors, and very frequent service. However, it still seems like not enough capacity with the trains being extremely crowded during the work week.
Overall I find it's a huge improvement with double the train size, all door boarding, low floors, and very frequent service. However, it still seems like not enough capacity with the trains being extremely crowded during the work week.
rbt
Senior Member
That's by design to maximize revenue per operations/capital dollar spent.
pstogios
Senior Member
A timeline of Bombardier’s excuses for not building Toronto’s new transit fleet
http://torontolife.com/city/transpo...uses-not-building-torontos-new-transit-fleet/
http://torontolife.com/city/transpo...uses-not-building-torontos-new-transit-fleet/
W. K. Lis
Superstar
lead82
Senior Member
The Spadina line has great service frequency but the speed of that line is still way too slow. There are too many stops. I would remove mid-block stops and try to speed up the service. By doing this, we would increase the capacity of this line.