What's currently being constructed is 600 metres long. Essentially it's just a run down Cherry Street, to a loop north of the Lakeshore West tracks. It will be used for some 504 services from Dundas West - probably every second car I'd guess.I'm curious, how long will this line be and how long is it suppose to take to build it?
Add to your comment.What's currently being constructed is 600 metres long. Essentially it's just a run down Cherry Street, to a loop north of the Lakeshore West tracks. It will be used for some 504 services from Dundas West - probably every second car I'd guess.
Not sure how long ... it's part of a reconstruction of the entire road, and service isn't due until after the Pan Am games (because it is adjacent to the Pan Am village, and won't have much of a purpose until these become condos after the games). However the road is being rebuilt now, so now is when the track is being put in.
In unfunded later phases, it would be extended to Queens Quay East, which would allow service to Union Station, or even to Exhibition Place. During the Portland redevelopment, over the next few decades, there are plans to extend it down Cherry to Commissioners Street and even Unwin Avenue, where service could go to Leslie.
Do you have a source for that? No one has been able to get an answer out of Service Planning about a form that the service may take when it opens, including Steve Munro.It will be used for some 504 services from Dundas West - probably every second car I'd guess.
Nothing recent ... we discussed further up the thread, and in the PICs for the EA, they discussed how it would work initially as a branch of the King service. As this would surely be to downtown, then presumably it would start at Dundas West.Do you have a source for that? No one has been able to get an answer out of Service Planning about a form that the service may take when it opens, including Steve Munro.
It make more sense to send more cars south of King now than what is, based on the growth of ridership and calls for it.I've alwasy thought it would make more sense to have half of the Spadina cars, instead of short turning at King, go down King and turn at Cherry loop.
Many is an understatement. There is often 10 cars in this loop, out of serivce, at rush hour. It must be the biggest waste of resources in the entire streetcar network. The switch north from King at Parliament is even manual. It sometimes takes three light cycles to get a car through as the operator has to get out and pry the switch open, then turn the streetcar, then walk back and pry the switch closed again!Throughout the day, many 504s heading east are short-turned on a very long loop (in both directions) up Parliament, Dundas East, Broadview. I'd assume they'd formalize this, to provide regular service to Cherry.
I was trying to be kind; I frequently change cars from 506 to 504 at Broadview/Gerrard,and often end up walking to Dundas, and catching a 504 entering service there (or more often than not, standing at the light, unable to cross, and watching it go past )Many is an understatement.
Yes. And they're wrong, and they shouldn't, and the 20+ years of history of trying to brand all or part of the existing streetcar network as "LRT" is a huge part of why Transit City had such a hard time (and continues to have such a hard time) getting accepted as not being a "streetcar"LRT is a function of the technology used, not the speed. They will be using LRVs on this line ... just like they use on 501, 502, 503 ... surely if they are using Light Rail Vehicles (LRV) then this is Light Rail Transit (LRT).
TTC has been using the LRV and LRT nomenclature for streetcars for years. And it would appear from this announcement, they still do.