SunriseChampion
Senior Member
"Aspiration of Official Plan": if I see anything even resembling that in my lifetime, I'll eat all six of my hats. Unless, of course, the subway is completed.
"Aspiration of Official Plan": if I see anything even resembling that in my lifetime, I'll eat all six of my hats. Unless, of course, the subway is completed.
Transit City and Viva have exactly the same design -- transit operating in a median at the centre of a street that stops at red lights. The requirement for lights at intersections is exactly the same. What sort of signalling issues do you foresee?
You sound more like a senile old fart.
You are not getting your facts straight.
Viva in it's current incarnation is not BRT. It's a nice bus in mixed traffic. Viva is building busways in the median of street, like Transit City. That is Phase 2. Phase 3 will be LRT, which Viva proudly states will be even faster than BRT!
And what makes you think the LRT lines will use the same signalling system as the subway?
Viva at present is a Bus Rapid Transit System & not located in the Centre Median.
Future plans for Viva are to go to a LRT System much like that proposed in Transit City.
What sort of signalling issues do I forsee well just about the same problems that have bedeviled all the TTC outside Subway lines for decades during Winter (freezing)
Not sure if the TTC will be using the same Signalling technology as the Subways but I haven't seen a Signalling system yet created that can reliably stand all the rigours of a Northern Climate in winter
To my knowledge, Spadina Streetcar has never frozen. In fact, the streetcars tend to plow away the snow themselves without requiring outside intervention. Since the signalling for Transit City will resemble Spadina (but with better stop spacing and fewer pesky intersections) more than the subway, I would expect Transit City to also never freeze.
Traffic lights rarely freeze in winter.
Transit City will be an unmitigated disaster !
Do they really believe that the LRT Signalling systems will be working in Winter ?
If this City cannot afford to complete a Sheppard Subway from Downsview to Scarborough Town Centre/Kennedy Subway Station & thinks building a Toy Train Set, that's signalling systems will be prone to the ravages of winter then save money & build a Bus Rapid Transit Way along Sheppard & all the other proposed Transit City routes & model this Bus Rapid Transit Way after Viva !
I haven't seen a Signalling system yet created that can reliably stand all the rigours of a Northern Climate in winter replete with extremes of weather temperatures & conditions with the added bonus of road salt usage
What on earth are you talking about? Signalling systems work exactly like the traffic lights we have on every street, which work pretty damn well through the winter.
LRT works fine in even colder places like Calgary, Sweden, Russia, Minneapolis, and so on. How does cranky old fart explain that?