Ansem
Banned
that money should have gone to Sheppard West extension from Sheppard-Yonge to Downsview...
That corridor is a disaster at peak times
That corridor is a disaster at peak times
I don't mind a 30 minutes bus service...
The point of the LRT is to **improve** existing transit.
How can anyone digest that a Billions dollars later, travel time will increase...
I totally agree. LRT should be for high ridership routes that experience a lot of normal road congestion. It should basically act as a regular bus route, but just with improved service.LRT should have been reserved for congested corridors or high demand corridors where demand was too little for a subway.
I definitely agree. It looks like Miller and Co. (other than going "let's kill a subway line,") took a look at the Sheppard ridership and assumed that people were evenly getting on and off at an even pace. Not even close. I'd hazard to guess that 75% of the line's ridership is west of Agincourt, and that the unrealized ridership in the corridor is at least that same figure.Moreover, considering Sheppard East as one entity from end to end is also a bad decision. Vic Park is significantly different from Morningside. Any serious analysis would have taken these differences and resultant differences in demand into account.
Oh, yeah d:^
Don't you mean west of Agincourt, not east?
^
Don't you mean west of Agincourt, not east?
The reality is that we can't afford to spend $1.2B (and that's before possible branches to STC and the Zoo) to replace buses on a whim and end up with service that even the EA says won't really be any better, let alone better than what improved bus routes could do. This LRT line was the fantasy of a few people and this fantasy is coming true due to funding windfalls. As a citizen, you cannot afford these kind of transit projects. $1.2B so that a few people can optimistically save, what, 5 minutes on one portion of their commute?
The 190's ridership has climbed every year and continues to rise, by the way. It takes time to build ridership along routes.
A bus actually leaves Don Mills station and travels east along Sheppard almost once every 90 seconds during rush hour, though they don't all continue for long distances. Sheppard already has a frequency under 5 minutes, and the 190 has a frequency of 5.5 minutes overlapping the busiest part of Sheppard. Four additional routes also overlap for a little while, again providing some service to the busiest part of Sheppard East.
Wait, wait, We cannot afford to spend 1.2 Billion to improve service, increase capacity, and give people an overall better ride, but it's OK to spend possibly double more for a subway to "complete" the network?
You know what's a fantasy? Still believing in a subway to STC, and somehow believing it will solve everything. That is the fantasy here. There is potential for corridor development with this line, and a more options for travellers. To bad, you people are too blind to see anything beyond speed.
As a citizen, we cannot afford subways that will be underused.
It's at 8,000. No where enough to even justify a subway.
Yet you want to build a subway with 1km+ station spacing, which will most likely require a parallel bus service. Your comment justifies why an LRT is needed with 400m stop spacing. It's about improving local service, and speed.
Do you honestly think people are going to want to take a subway just because it might be faster, only to have to wait for a infrequent parallel bus service? Didn't work on Yonge, or Sheppard. Why would it work on Sheppard.
SELRT is the right choice, and you know it.
Why are people so obsessed with stop spacing mantras?
This whole stop spacing thing just means we get a line like this (red circles are stops). Two stops to serve Home Depot, and water towers, drivethroughs and gas stations get the best service of all.
To whom it may concern:
The Sheppard East LRT have been planned, studied, and funded for and its first phase of construction preparations has already begun. The fact that there are a number of people on this forum who feel the zeal to progressively dismiss the merits of this project and target anyone who feels otherwise does not overcome the reality that the project will indeed go on and our infrastructure will be built.
Therefore to debate against those who will never cease to assert their discretional claims, and the same whom who are under the impression that tireless promulgation of tired opinions in pointless discussions will actually contribute to the betterment of society, is a pointless waste of everybody's time and the world's resources.
I support the Sheppard LRT and lucky for me all three levels of government support it too.
I'm happy that it is being built and I think it'll do great for Toronto.
I invite those who agree with me to exit this meaningless debate and let the other side flourish in their own opinions without costing us our most precious resource, time.
Regards,