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Transit City: Sheppard East Debate

If they could extend the Sheppard Line east maybe they could split it off at one point so there's a route that goes to and terminates at STC and another one that continues on without leaving Sheppard Avenue.
 
BrandonTO416 said:
Transit City needs to be revised badly, it theoretically could create one of the greatest mass transit networks in North America if they just finish a core TTC subway system with the DRL, an Eglinton TTC subway, and finish the Sheppard TTC subway. LRT everywhere else, but the core can't be "light" it has to be full out subway.
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Agreed! Just because you are pro-Eglinton West & Sheppard East subway does not mean you are anti-light rail! There are places for light-rail but you need a intensive subway system to act as the substance or the "core" to handle the crowds and future needs.
 
M II A II R II K said:
If they could extend the Sheppard Line east maybe they could split it off at one point so there's a route that goes to and terminates at STC and another one that continues on without leaving Sheppard Avenue.
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Agreed! Though with an extension being at least a couple of years, if not longer in the future, as long as the Sheppard East LRT line is built so that it doesn't preclude the extension of the subway, then that seems sensible.
 
W. K. Lis said:
Do not forget the the seven lines of Transit City are the just the first seven. By the time the last construction ends around 2017, then the next set of LRT/HRT lines and/or extensions should be in the planning stage. We should be ready to begin the next lines once the last ones are finished.
There should be construction for transit each and every year, not just planning and wishing, but real physical construction.
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I doubt it. Don't forget that sweeping transportation "solutions" that fail to improve the socio-economic viability of a city (like Transfer City) don't tend to get expanded the next time around. Consider the number of freeways built in New York City after Robert Moses' death.
 
Hipster Duck said:
I doubt it. Don't forget that sweeping transportation "solutions" that fail to improve the socio-economic viability of a city (like Transfer City) don't tend to get expanded the next time around. Consider the number of freeways built in New York City after Robert Moses' death.
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See Scarberian and I aren't the only ones who call it Transfer City.
 
Have faith my friends this is what I see:

Elections:2010

LRT Sheppard:2013

-They are starting from the east and not from Don Mills.

Solution: we kick Miller out and vote for the candidate who wants Sheppard to be completed to STC.

There's still hope.
Just looking at how long it takes them to rebuilt St-Clair, At the next election, thhey wont have built 10% of the line (I'm being generous)
 
Once again this isn't really a Miller issue ... It's TTC issue. The Mayor of a city / premier / primeminister doesn't make to many decisions on their own. They're not an expert in every category, they're told by the various departments and their advisors what to build. In this case Mayor Miller was told the Transit city option would be the best.

Moreover, there is very little to any public outcry regarding this DRL issue YET ... unless it becomes a bigger issue for everyone it won't become an election issue.
 
Which would be what?

A dedicated LRT line? Why would that be a surprise to anyone?
 
Ansem, you say lets kick miller out by voting for someone who wants to sheppard to be a subway. but what if there is no candidate in the next elections that will support a subway extension on the sheppard line?
 
CapitalSeven said:
By all means, kick out Miller and get Mel Lastman back! That went so well the first time.
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Yes ;) , lets go back to a time when politicians planned expensive and unnecessary subway lines for the sake of planning subway lines, lets go back to a time when those plans got us nowhere and left the rest of the system in a state of disrepair, lets go back to a time when when politicians had the least concern for transit riders and the most concern for their own pet project subway lines.
 
Voltz said:
Yes ;) , lets go back to a time when politicians planned expensive and unnecessary subway lines for the sake of planning subway lines, lets go back to a time when those plans got us nowhere and left the rest of the system in a state of disrepair, lets go back to a time when when politicians had the least concern for transit riders and the most concern for their own pet project subway lines.
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Geez, the Sheppard subway cost less than 1 billion, not 10 and the planning and public presentation of the facts bore a little more resemblance to democracy.
 
Hipster Duck said:
Geez, the Sheppard subway cost less than 1 billion, not 10 and the planning and public presentation of the facts bore a little more resemblance to democracy.
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They may have pretended to be open with the planning for the Eglinton, Sheppard and Spadina (extension) subways, but the reality is the fix for subways was in from the beginning.

Of course the sheppard line costed less than the TC plan, it's 1/20th the length, it is also a big money loser and has abysmally low ridership, and they knew it was never needed, and that they could build something else that would be a lot longer for the same money, but Mel Lastman's ego had to interfere.
 
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