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AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Thanks for the rendering - decent though nothing particularly impressive (not that it was expected to be). Bit surprising how the project is practically half the size of BA.
AoD
AoD
Interesting glass tower over the entrance though, tubes hanging from above...
This may be entirely conceptual at the point though: a lead tenant would have a lot of say about the exterior, depending on how much of the building they would take, and for how long...
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This may be entirely conceptual at the point though: a lead tenant would have a lot of say about the exterior, depending on how much of the building they would take, and for how long...
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adma
Superstar
Somehow seems way too slickly "contemporary" for a valleyside location--maybe if some kind of Aalto-esque style made a comeback, it'd be better...
khris
Senior Member
I quite like it. Those tubes in the glass look very nice!
What I'd like to know is what the other buildings are that they plan on building. One is an apartment tower. Do we have renders or threads for the other projects too?
What I'd like to know is what the other buildings are that they plan on building. One is an apartment tower. Do we have renders or threads for the other projects too?
uptownto
New Member
Found a Post City article that shows the renders for the other Build Toronto projects too. http://www.postcity.com/Cityscape/Deal-Estate/May-2010/Four-Toronto-sites-set-for-redevelopment/
Downsview project :
Lakeshore & Islington :
Downsview project :
Lakeshore & Islington :
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adma
Superstar
Boy, that LS/Islington thing is aggressively industrial-parkey. I suppose if Corus went up under a Mayor Ford rather than a Mayor Miller, that's what it'd look like...
adHominem
Senior Member
Hideous. Slap a Leon's logo on there and call it a day.
Towered
Superstar
That thing is indeed a disaster, which raises an important point: there's a raging battle going on between the city and the waterfront design panel over the city's plan to build a suburban style ice rink in the portlands, with the review panel claiming that low-rise, single use buildings with a large footprint and acres of parking have no business being built in the city anymore, yet there is not a single peep of outrage over this proposal, just because it's in far flung south Etobicoke? This brings to mind Urban Shocker's point that there is no place where bad design inherently belongs, no matter how lousy the area may currently be. Nobody gives a damn about the continuing architectural crimes being committed against Etobicoke it seems. The city should be striving for high quality design and urbanization even in areas far from downtown that aren't "cool".
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Actually I think the reason isn't because it is in far flung Etobicoke - but the explicit recognition that it is an industrial building. Different expectations - though details like green roofs will matter in this case.
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scarberiankhatru
Senior Member
from the North York Post:
Proposed Hoggs Hollow building worries locals
450,000-sq.ft. York Mills project to replace parking lot - by Michelle Ervin
Recently revealed plans to transform the TTC commuter parking lot located on the northwest corner of Yonge Street and York Mills Road into a 450,000-square foot, eight-storey office building have raised early concerns for some in the community.
The announcement came after Build Toronto, an arm's length agency tasked with realizing the value of city-owned land, submitted an application to have the official plan amended and the site rezoned.
Coun. Karen Stintz expressed concerns about the proposed size of the building and loss of public parking.
"I'd like to see the plan amended before we bring it back to the public," she said.
Leanne Lewis, past president of the York Mills Valley Association (YMVA), echoed these concerns and said her organization would like to see that the design reflects the "urban-meets-rural" character of the neighbourhood and serves as a model of architectural excellence.
"It's an important intersection, not just for the neighbourhoods around the intersection, but for the whole city," she said. "It makes a first impression for people coming off the 401."
Coun. Stintz said she and councillor Cliff Jenkins will be holding a June 3 meeting to update the community on the status of the plans.
Derek Ballantyne, chief operating officer for Build Toronto, said his agency hopes to reach a workable solution through the public consultation process that will follow.
The TTC has entered into talks to lease the building and relocate its head office there, a move that drew sharp criticism from mayoral candidate George Smitherman, among others.
Build Toronto also identified a 54-acre site next to Downsview subway station as a priority for development that is set to include a mix of office, retail and residential space.
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from Karen Stintz' website:
Community Meeting - 4050 Yonge Street
Location: Agricola Finnish Lutheran Church 25 Old York Mills Road
7:00 pm to 9:00 pm
Councillors Karen Stintz and Cliff Jenkins invite you to attend a community meeting at
7:00 p.m. on June 3, 2010 at the Agricola Finnish Lutheran Church at 25 Old York
Mills Road to discuss a proposal by Build Toronto to redevelop the property at 4050
Yonge Street, on the northwest corner of Yonge Street and Wilson Avenue.
History:
A few months ago, Build Toronto, the City’s real estate and development corporation,
began preliminary discussions with our offices about the potential development of 4050 Yonge Street.
On April 29th, Councillor Jenkins held a meeting to discuss the proposal with Build
Toronto and representatives of local ratepayers’ associations. At that meeting, Build
Toronto indicated their continued interest in the site and advised of their intention to file
a development application (Official Plan Amendment – OPA). On April 30th,
Councillor Stintz spoke with representatives of Build Toronto, advising them of a
number of significant concerns that had been raised by the local community that needed to be resolved before moving forward. She requested that Build Toronto not submit an application without addressing these concerns. Within an hour of this
conversation, Build Toronto submitted their Official Plan Amendment for an 8-storey mixed-use commercial office building with a total height of 43 metres (141 feet) and a
total GFA of 46,380 square metres (500,000 square feet) of which 2,025 square metres
(21,000 square feet) would be dedicated to retail. There would be 231 vehicular parking
spaces provided within 2 levels of below-grade parking with access from Wilson Avenue.
Councillors’ Concerns:
• Potential tenant(s) – a new TTC headquarters or a commercial enterprise?
• Community consultation - cannot take place over the summer months while
residents are vacationing.
• The proposed 8 storey height and the solar chimney that projects 30 feet above
the height limit for the site triggers an Official Plan Amendment (OPA) that is not
appropriate for this location and sets a dangerous precedent for other
developments in the area.
• There are Toronto Regional Conservation (TRC) lands that will be impacted by
the proposed development.
• Considering the City’s financial straights, should the TTC be considering a new headquarters at this time?
• The amount of parking available in the proposed plans
Meeting:
The meeting will provide the community the opportunity to discuss Build Toronto’s
plans with Councillors Stintz and Jenkins. City Planning and Toronto and Region
Conservation Authority (TRCA) staff will also be in attendance to discuss the application and answer questions.
If you have questions or require additional information, please do not hesitate to contact
Councillor Stintz at 416-392-4090 or Councillor Jenkins at 416-395-6408.
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edit - I love the worries about parking...do they not know that a good 100% of people parking in the lot are commuters from outside the neighbourhood that can still use the *other* large Green P lot nearby?
Also, Hoggs Hollow residents are apparently nomads and city business must shut down until they migrate back from their summer breeding grounds.
Proposed Hoggs Hollow building worries locals
450,000-sq.ft. York Mills project to replace parking lot - by Michelle Ervin
Recently revealed plans to transform the TTC commuter parking lot located on the northwest corner of Yonge Street and York Mills Road into a 450,000-square foot, eight-storey office building have raised early concerns for some in the community.
The announcement came after Build Toronto, an arm's length agency tasked with realizing the value of city-owned land, submitted an application to have the official plan amended and the site rezoned.
Coun. Karen Stintz expressed concerns about the proposed size of the building and loss of public parking.
"I'd like to see the plan amended before we bring it back to the public," she said.
Leanne Lewis, past president of the York Mills Valley Association (YMVA), echoed these concerns and said her organization would like to see that the design reflects the "urban-meets-rural" character of the neighbourhood and serves as a model of architectural excellence.
"It's an important intersection, not just for the neighbourhoods around the intersection, but for the whole city," she said. "It makes a first impression for people coming off the 401."
Coun. Stintz said she and councillor Cliff Jenkins will be holding a June 3 meeting to update the community on the status of the plans.
Derek Ballantyne, chief operating officer for Build Toronto, said his agency hopes to reach a workable solution through the public consultation process that will follow.
The TTC has entered into talks to lease the building and relocate its head office there, a move that drew sharp criticism from mayoral candidate George Smitherman, among others.
Build Toronto also identified a 54-acre site next to Downsview subway station as a priority for development that is set to include a mix of office, retail and residential space.
***
from Karen Stintz' website:
Community Meeting - 4050 Yonge Street
Location: Agricola Finnish Lutheran Church 25 Old York Mills Road
7:00 pm to 9:00 pm
Councillors Karen Stintz and Cliff Jenkins invite you to attend a community meeting at
7:00 p.m. on June 3, 2010 at the Agricola Finnish Lutheran Church at 25 Old York
Mills Road to discuss a proposal by Build Toronto to redevelop the property at 4050
Yonge Street, on the northwest corner of Yonge Street and Wilson Avenue.
History:
A few months ago, Build Toronto, the City’s real estate and development corporation,
began preliminary discussions with our offices about the potential development of 4050 Yonge Street.
On April 29th, Councillor Jenkins held a meeting to discuss the proposal with Build
Toronto and representatives of local ratepayers’ associations. At that meeting, Build
Toronto indicated their continued interest in the site and advised of their intention to file
a development application (Official Plan Amendment – OPA). On April 30th,
Councillor Stintz spoke with representatives of Build Toronto, advising them of a
number of significant concerns that had been raised by the local community that needed to be resolved before moving forward. She requested that Build Toronto not submit an application without addressing these concerns. Within an hour of this
conversation, Build Toronto submitted their Official Plan Amendment for an 8-storey mixed-use commercial office building with a total height of 43 metres (141 feet) and a
total GFA of 46,380 square metres (500,000 square feet) of which 2,025 square metres
(21,000 square feet) would be dedicated to retail. There would be 231 vehicular parking
spaces provided within 2 levels of below-grade parking with access from Wilson Avenue.
Councillors’ Concerns:
• Potential tenant(s) – a new TTC headquarters or a commercial enterprise?
• Community consultation - cannot take place over the summer months while
residents are vacationing.
• The proposed 8 storey height and the solar chimney that projects 30 feet above
the height limit for the site triggers an Official Plan Amendment (OPA) that is not
appropriate for this location and sets a dangerous precedent for other
developments in the area.
• There are Toronto Regional Conservation (TRC) lands that will be impacted by
the proposed development.
• Considering the City’s financial straights, should the TTC be considering a new headquarters at this time?
• The amount of parking available in the proposed plans
Meeting:
The meeting will provide the community the opportunity to discuss Build Toronto’s
plans with Councillors Stintz and Jenkins. City Planning and Toronto and Region
Conservation Authority (TRCA) staff will also be in attendance to discuss the application and answer questions.
If you have questions or require additional information, please do not hesitate to contact
Councillor Stintz at 416-392-4090 or Councillor Jenkins at 416-395-6408.
***
edit - I love the worries about parking...do they not know that a good 100% of people parking in the lot are commuters from outside the neighbourhood that can still use the *other* large Green P lot nearby?
Also, Hoggs Hollow residents are apparently nomads and city business must shut down until they migrate back from their summer breeding grounds.
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Rowe
Active Member
WHAT?! Taking away a public parking lot for a TTC building? Shame on you Build Toronto, making life harder for the car-drivers of Toronto.
Parkdalian
Senior Member
I think Karen Stintz is getting fussed about this because she wishes she had the "sexy" development issues and community consultations that Pam McConnell, Adam Vaughan and Kyle Rae have to deal with on an ongoing basis.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Yeah, interesting how one wanted to have their cake (selling off unneeded assets for the maximium bang for the buck for "fiscal responsiblity") and eat it (ride on a notoriously NIMBY FoNTRA public) too. Karen, which is it?
AoD
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UrbanAffair
Senior Member
I don't understand what Ms. Stintz is going on about? Check this concern:
• Community consultation - cannot take place over the summer months while
residents are vacationing.
WTF? I am sure that these wealthy residents vacation during the winter too, so when should these consultations happen, only when we have 100% available?
The parking issue should be a non issue, there are parking lots nearby, and really, this is on the yonge subway line, with likely direct access from the building.
And the solar chimney issue is ridiculous, does a solar chimney really set a precedent for being a mere 30 feet above the zoning allowance? Can other buildings site that and build their own solar chimneys in the future? I hope so. Also, its a solar chimney, the type of efficient ventilation system that should be encouraged. Seems like the subtext to the arguments of neighbours via Karen is that they are for keeping car traffic up and constant and against energy efficiency options. Kind of frustrating...
• Community consultation - cannot take place over the summer months while
residents are vacationing.
WTF? I am sure that these wealthy residents vacation during the winter too, so when should these consultations happen, only when we have 100% available?
The parking issue should be a non issue, there are parking lots nearby, and really, this is on the yonge subway line, with likely direct access from the building.
And the solar chimney issue is ridiculous, does a solar chimney really set a precedent for being a mere 30 feet above the zoning allowance? Can other buildings site that and build their own solar chimneys in the future? I hope so. Also, its a solar chimney, the type of efficient ventilation system that should be encouraged. Seems like the subtext to the arguments of neighbours via Karen is that they are for keeping car traffic up and constant and against energy efficiency options. Kind of frustrating...