someMidTowner
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Umm you picked an example that has two+ years of zero visible work. Not sure why: https://skyrisecities.com/forum/thr...t-340m-66s-madison-equities-cetraruddy.24913/
Toronto The One | 328.4m | 91s | Mizrahi Developments | Foster + Partners
- Thread starter urbandreamer
- Start date
ADRM
Senior Member
I for one much prefer the design of 1BW.
AdamS
Active Member
The two developments are not really comparable at all. There are multiple construction gates for CIBC vs one laneway for theOne.
Excavation at One is a painstaking process where one excavator has to pass the dirt to a smaller bucket excavator, which then lifts up into the dumptruck. It's one step up from having guys shovel their way out.
Also, CIBC is a bank with virtually unlimited funds to speed up the process. The two projects are hardly similar.
Contra
Senior Member
Everyone seems to be disregarding the size of these supercolumns (something we haven't seen yet here). It's a small site with some massive underground work going on...just because we don't see upward progress doesn't mean there hasn't been substantial underground progress.
AdamS
Active Member
Unconfirmed rumour that the penthouse has been sold to a foreign Asian buyer.
12,000 SF for $48,000,000.
12,000 SF for $48,000,000.
raptor
Senior Member
A couple of ignorant trolls is far from 'everyone'
ushahid
Senior Member
somemidtowner work is happening at 45 broad street. here is another pic of workers at the site.
NEW YORK | 45 Broad Street | 366m | 1200ft | 68 fl | U/C - Page 17 - SkyscraperCity
Page 17- NEW YORK | 45 Broad Street | 366m | 1200ft | 68 fl | U/C Supertalls
www.skyscrapercity.com
Attachments
heatscore
Active Member
Drilling 32 mega caissons and filling them with giant rebar cages, and a combined volume of 12,096m^3 of concrete. That's a whole lotta work - you just cant see it.
Edit - Great to hear about the penthouse. Hope it can be confirmed soon.
Edit - Great to hear about the penthouse. Hope it can be confirmed soon.
got it right
Active Member
"Also, CIBC is a bank with virtually unlimited funds to speed up the process.".....this is the key phrase. I can tell you from experience that speed and schedule are almost directly proportionate to funds. The demands by the client are also very different. Large corporations with money will not tolerate missing schedule but it goes beyond just schedule. CIBC Square has demonstrated the utmost professionalism in their communication etc. They have issued detailed weekly construction updates. Brookfield is similar in the way they conduct themselves. I don't have the original schedule or the construction management contract, but I would bet a lot that this project is behind schedule and not just a couple of weeks.
ChesterCopperpot
Senior Member
Good for them but they are very much an outlier.
Mizrahi and the CM here don't owe anybody anything with regards to construction updates.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
I am not at all sure what we are agitating here about.
AoD
AoD
T.E.C.II
Active Member
Really, much prefer? 45 just looks like a building that would lend itself to the name "The One", in terms of it's Art Deco style, and height, and to comparisons to Rockefeller Center. While I was never in love with The One, every new design since then just feels worse than the one that came before it.
Lenser
Senior Member
Proof's in the pudding. Let's see how it looks once it starts emerging from that damned hole.
ushahid
Senior Member
If one example wasn't enough I dug up another example of complicated engineering that is 9 DeKalb in Brooklyn, broke ground in March 2017. I read about 10 pages and just three people had concerns that this building is on hold but were told "its meticulous work".
www.skyscrapercity.com
NEW YORK | 9 DeKalb Avenue | 335m | 1099ft | 74 fl | U/C
Ground work still ongoing.
www.skyscrapercity.com
cd concept
Senior Member
Look at colour and detail of this supertall that they're building in Brooklyn's downtown core in the photo up above ! Makes you wonder why we can't have something similar here .