Toronto Sugar Wharf Condominiums (Phase 2) | 283.6m | 85s | Menkes | a—A

[concrete_and_light]

Wild how there's basically going to be a whole other city core down here soon

 

[Start Fox]

My understanding is that the "four buildings" arrangement of Phase 2 is old. If you walk by the site, the "Notice" signs also have a picture of the four building arrangement. However, that was all just preliminary, and Menkes has subsequently released the plan for the community along with renderings, which show three buildings.

Practically speaking, I don't really think four would fit on the lot. Better just to combine that density into the other towers and have three buildings - two in back one in front, which allows essentially all buildings to have a lakeview and sell are a higher premium.

Very excited/nervous to see what these buildings ultimately look like though. These will be hugely skyline-defining buildings, given that there's essentially nothing in front of them (other than the park and Pier 27/Redpath) so there'll be a clear view of the entire structures from the lake.

 

[Marcanadian]

Site Plan Control application submitted for phase 2.

Tower B: 90 storeys, 299 metres
Tower C: 87 storeys, 290 metres
Tower D: 79 storeys, 260 metres

2,705 condos, 196 affordable rentals

Development Applications

 

[NorthshoreCity]

Skyscraper enthusiasts are going to be triggered at that 299 number ?

 

[westtoeast]

Not sure why I was naive enough to think they might actually go for some architectural excellence/prominence for a site like this...5 nearly identical boxes for Sugar Wharf is unbelievably disappointing.

 

[Lenser]

Impressive heights but those designs are lacklustre... tepid, unimaginative deviations from the prevailing box scheme.

 

[Automation Gallery]

Not sure why I was naive enough to think they might actually go for some architectural excellence/prominence for a site like this...5 nearly identical boxes for Sugar Wharf is unbelievably disappointing.

Looks like Tower D: 79 storeys, 260 metres is kind of roundish?

 

[raptor]

Just so we're clear, the last image above doesn't contain tower D, which has circular floorplates

 

[Automation Gallery]

Just so we're clear, the last image above doesn't contain tower D, which has circular floorplates

Yup 1st phase, tower D is south and faces the park/lake

 

[ptbotrmpfn]

I like that there is at least a slight staggering in three sections of the two biggest towers but it’s very subtle. I almost didn’t see it. Hieght wise I expected them to always stay under 300m. It’s Toronto after all. Always leaving us wanting more. I guess the CIBC buildings make up for it? From only one or two angles on the skyline anyways. Where most see them.

 

[salsa]

The street presence couldn't be more underwhelming.

 

[westtoeast]

Looks like Tower D: 79 storeys, 260 metres is kind of roundish?

This is true - I guess lamenting the boxes was more of a knee jerk reaction. Any difference in material here would be welcome though.

They're giving a decent amount back with the affordable rentals, daycare, and a school, but I was really hoping there'd be something more exciting here!

 

[Automation Gallery]

They're giving a decent amount back with the affordable rentals, daycare, and a school, but I was really hoping there'd be something more exciting here!

That's not bad, don't forget the proposed park with a new retail complex on the north side,
.. now it's up to the city to plan the park and get the proper transit to make it more exciting down there, no?

 

[ushahid]

Skyscraper enthusiasts are going to be triggered at that 299 number ?

this one is not bothering me as much as it bothered me for YSL.
it's the design thats bothering me more, atleast build one damn tower without balconies and more curtain wall.

 

[Automation Gallery]

Skyscraper enthusiasts are going to be triggered at that 299 number ?

Yeah, now 3 buildings in the pipeline with that same height, ...come on not 300m?