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I guess this natural gas meter station is not temporary or in the interim they installed proper bollard protection. Not much room to navigate the sidewalk. They did taper the sidewalk so mobility devices can put a wheel on the road to pass. I’m guessing the designers weren’t on the same page with Enbridge for space allocation. Something like RBC on Harbour between York and Bay would have been nice. Could they elevate this, add some catwalks for service and add a wall?
This road might be back-of-house today but it will see a lot more pedestrian traffic when the Loblaws property is developed and more vehicle traffic when Harbour/Lake Shore/Downes rework is completed.

East Side John M Tinsley St.
Jan 2023
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RBC Waterpark Place. August 20, 2024
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mburrrrr said:
I guess this natural gas meter station is not temporary or in the interim they installed proper bollard protection. Not much room to navigate the sidewalk. They did taper the sidewalk so mobility devices can put a wheel on the road to pass. I’m guessing the designers weren’t on the same page with Enbridge for space allocation. Something like RBC on Harbour between York and Bay would have been nice. Could they elevate this, add some catwalks for service and add a wall?
This road might be back-of-house today but it will see a lot more pedestrian traffic when the Loblaws property is developed and more vehicle traffic when Harbour/Lake Shore/Downes rework is completed.

East Side John M Tinsley St.
Jan 2023
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RBC Waterpark Place. August 20, 2024
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That does not seem to allow for a properly accessible sidewalk. 🤔
 
mburrrrr said:
I guess this natural gas meter station is not temporary or in the interim they installed proper bollard protection. Not much room to navigate the sidewalk. They did taper the sidewalk so mobility devices can put a wheel on the road to pass. I’m guessing the designers weren’t on the same page with Enbridge for space allocation. Something like RBC on Harbour between York and Bay would have been nice. Could they elevate this, add some catwalks for service and add a wall?
This road might be back-of-house today but it will see a lot more pedestrian traffic when the Loblaws property is developed and more vehicle traffic when Harbour/Lake Shore/Downes rework is completed.

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Natika33 said:
That does not seem to allow for a properly accessible sidewalk. 🤔
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No, it does not.......... the requirement is for 2.1M of width unencumbered. No chance the above meets that standard.

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Edit to add, @mburrrrr would you be willing to take ownership of this? If so......

I've discussed it with folks...........and the consensus was to flag it to the Councillor's office, as this will likely require escalation.

That's Councillor Malik, whose email I have posted below.

Councillor_Malik@toronto.ca

Just include a couple of your pics and the issue, noting that this is non-compliant for accessibility.
 
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Northern Light said:
No, it does not.......... the requirement is for 2.1M of width unencumbered. No chance the above meets that standard.

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Edit to add, @mburrrrr would you be willing to take ownership of this? If so......

I've discussed it with folks...........and the consensus was to flag it to the Councillor's office, as this will likely require escalation.

That's Councillor Malik, whose email I have posted below.

Councillor_Malik@toronto.ca

Just include a couple of your pics and the issue, noting that this is non-compliant for accessibility.
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Will do. Thanks for the info.
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A new type of crosswalk. The lawyers must be involved in the due diligence. I’m sure others in the building have probably complained too.

The councilor responded to my email and passed me on to an assistant who I have not heard from.

I wonder if this is temporary?
I will try again.

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This is what Pinnacle’s gas train looks like at the first smaller building at One Yonge.
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mburrrrr said:
A new type of crosswalk. The lawyers must be involved in the due diligence. I’m sure others in the building have probably complained too.

The councilor responded to my email and passed me on to an assistant who I have not heard from.

I wonder if this is temporary?
I will try again.

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This is what Pinnacle’s gas train looks like at the first smaller building at One Yonge.
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Yes this is bizarre. Even if the street will be widened and moved a bit further east when/if Loblaws is demolished it is VERY odd and certainly not up to Code.
 
DSC said:
Yes this is bizarre. Even if the street will be widened and moved a bit further east when/if Loblaws is demolished it is VERY odd and certainly not up to Code.
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My councilor’s office reply today.

“This street is currently under private ownership. Ultimately, the street will be rendered to the City when the neighbouring site at Loblaws is redeveloped. That will allow for the sidewalks and road area to be increased according to the precinct plan for the area. There is no timeframe on that redevelopment.

Enbridge did not accept the inset that has been prepared by the developer within the building for this infrastructure.

Our office is engaging Enbridge and the developer to determine what the solution looks like.”
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So I guess this is an unassumed road for the next 10(?) years.

We’ll see what happens during the first big snow fall. I guess this will get some extra attention.


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mburrrrr said:
"This street is currently under private ownership. Ultimately, the street will be rendered to the City when the neighbouring site at Loblaws is redeveloped. That will allow for the sidewalks and road area to be increased according to the precinct plan for the area. There is no timeframe on that redevelopment..."
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Menkes: "If the pedestrians don't live here, who cares if they get ran over... /shrug"

/bleh
 
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