Stec
Active Member
Whoa not sure how I missed this one, I can't wait to see full renders and plans this is exciting! Hope to see a new tower fill the old YMCA's spot. A new YMCA would be huge welcome news for downtown.
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innsertnamehere
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The 2025 Federal Budget mentions this project directly, of all things:
KingJames
Active Member
I wonder what level of support it entails, hopefully enough that they could launch the project... We need more cranes in the Hammer 
innsertnamehere
Superstar
A couple of news articles on the announcement:
www.thespec.com
thepublicrecord.ca
The new 55,000sf YMCA will apparently cost $70 million, and they have applied for a $25 million grant from the Feds.
The existing 174 bed shelter space in the current YMCA would not be replaced in the new building, though the YMCA is looking to shift that capacity elsewhere in the City's shelter network.
The residential component of the development is proposed as a 600+ unit Co-op housing building - a relatively unique model which will also likely require significant Federal funding.
No applications filed with the City yet.
Federal budget helps kick-start massive Hamilton YMCA, co-op development
The major downtown project would include 600-plus co-op units.
www.thespec.com
Federal Budget Includes Funding Commitment for New Downtown Hamilton YMCA
New 55,000 sq ft YMCA facility part of mixed-use project with approximately 700 rental units in two 32-storey towers proposed by Jennifer Keesmaat's Collecdev-Markee Developments
thepublicrecord.ca
The new 55,000sf YMCA will apparently cost $70 million, and they have applied for a $25 million grant from the Feds.
The existing 174 bed shelter space in the current YMCA would not be replaced in the new building, though the YMCA is looking to shift that capacity elsewhere in the City's shelter network.
The residential component of the development is proposed as a 600+ unit Co-op housing building - a relatively unique model which will also likely require significant Federal funding.
No applications filed with the City yet.
Corktownie
New Member
This honestly might be one of the most exciting developments in Hamilton. Hundreds of units of much-needed rental housing, a state-of-the-art Y, and—if it ends up looking anything like the renderings—maybe some cool architecture to boot.
BCTed
Active Member
I can't tell if the federal government support is meant for the YMCA part only or for the entire development.
I guess it doesn't really matter ---- I just want to know if it is enough to give the green light for full construction.
I guess it doesn't really matter ---- I just want to know if it is enough to give the green light for full construction.
Sunnyside
Senior Member
In Hamilton the best you can hope for is that staff recognize what’s infront of them so no one else has to give the green light after an inordinate amount of time.
That said, it’s not like Collecdev-Markee is headed by someone unacquainted with the pains of municipal process. And newcomers here seem to have better luck if anything.
Assuming there isn’t some fast track to bypass the city of course- this doesn’t scream MZO.
KingJames
Active Member
What a fun coincidence.....site used to be the YWCA .
Chronamut
Active Member
thank GOD wilson blanchard never went ahead with this - that company honestly needs to be run out of town for the crimes they've committed. But I am loving the ACTUAL proposal for this! (the red one)That is my understanding as well, given this sentence:
Some additional context on the site, for the thread:
Aerial satellite view:
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This is roughly the angle of the rendering, looking south from Main Street just west of James:
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Google Street View, Jun 2024
Back in 2015 Wilson-Blanchard was planning a 4-storey office building (in light blue) here and a potential 19-storey condo Phase 2 (yellow) on the parking lot 20 Jackson Street.
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More info on that concept can be found here on The Public Record:
Wilson-Blanchard Moving Forward with Plans for 21 Main Street West
Wilson-Blanchard is planning a new 4-storey building on Main Street West behind the heritage designated Bank of Montreal building which presently houses Gowlings law firm.
These were the concept designs produced by DPAI:
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And a historical photograph of the church grounds looking northwest from James & Jackson, 1937
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Where the 'Imperial Gasoline' building is roughly where the 21 Main Street parking lot is now
ScreamingViking
New Member
I agree. But at one time everyone was down on Vranich for failing to make any progress on his vast real estate holdings in the core... we're still down on his company, but for different reasons. Hopefully if Blanchard ever gets going, he doesn't cheap out (but given the track record, that's a big and probably fool's hope)
Chronamut
Active Member
Cheaping out is one thing both those companies have in common.
Sunnyside
Senior Member
Has WB developed any of its land holdings? The lack thereof is what I glare at them for, but it might be too early to judge quality or cheapness. They are leaving money on the table, if anything
Chronamut
Active Member
No they're just waiting for all the buildings on them to collapse...
KingJames
Active Member
WB - Wasteland Blight