salsa
Senior Member
Lakeshore still needs electrification as well as corridor acquisition + new tracks in the Hamilton area.
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Lakeshore still needs electrification as well as corridor acquisition + new tracks in the Hamilton area.
kd86
New Member
Not to mention grade separation at some level crossing. Take for example Morningside Road in Scarborough; it's a major road yet it still crosses the Lakeshore line at grade. If we want trains running every 15 minutes this may pose as a problem when it comes to traffic.
BurlOak
Senior Member
How long does it take for a train to cross Morningside. Probably no different than the amount of time is takes a pedestrian (one who presses the walk button and walks at the design speed) to cross the Morningside.
Is the desire to have everything grade-separated to not slow the road, or is it to add certainty to the train schedule, because any time cars (or peds) and trains interact, there is the potential for delays to service?
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
My bad. That was a typo. I meant to say 15 years. I dropped the '1' by accident.
Markster
Senior Member
Yeah, I don't get the fanatic need to grade separate everything.
Somehow, Edmonton and Calgary manage 5 minute frequencies (bi-directional!) on their LRTs without having them completely grade separated. I would think that GO running 15 minute frequencies could be handled at grade (with appropriately large/visible crossing arms/gates) for much of the outer stretches of the lines.
The grade separations should be a nice-to-have, not a project blocker.
[edit] okay, I suppose I get the fanatic need. I just wish that there was more willingness to work within well established modes of operation.
Somehow, Edmonton and Calgary manage 5 minute frequencies (bi-directional!) on their LRTs without having them completely grade separated. I would think that GO running 15 minute frequencies could be handled at grade (with appropriately large/visible crossing arms/gates) for much of the outer stretches of the lines.
The grade separations should be a nice-to-have, not a project blocker.
[edit] okay, I suppose I get the fanatic need. I just wish that there was more willingness to work within well established modes of operation.
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Transportfan
Senior Member
No they won't. They could fit them in by squeezing and moving the bottom of the map down:
I included the B-D/Line 2 extension in the modified map.
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P23
Active Member
I'd rather they take the rational approach and just switch the above door maps for a line diagram and put a system map in the poster ad spaces.
nfitz
Superstar
You might be able to squeeze and move the map.
How do you squeeze and move the lightbulbs:
TOareaFan
Superstar
^signs by Lite Brite!
Bad Bear
Active Member
Why don't install something like the dynamic LED in the NYC's subway?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2524/3950329846_b776635353.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2524/3950329846_b776635353.jpg
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cplchanb
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$$$
JasonParis
Moderator
Agree with this wholeheartedly. And it doesn't matter what line the train runs and is super-easy to add new stations, new lines, etc.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Yeah but can you imagine them using a serif font on it like they do on the LED route display at the front of the trains? <gag>
AoD
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MrsNesbitt
Active Member
Yes. Yes. Yes!
This is what I was talking about with computerized screens. It makes infinitely more sense to be able to update route info in a single software update, and frankly only showing the current line plus immediate connections is most useful anyways.
I do not wear glasses and have better than 20/20 vision. I still can't read that damn font until the train is 2/3 of the way down the platform to me.
kbdid
Senior Member
Wow, this took the better part of a year (I think) to get into the press. Apparently it's not really slowing things down too much.