toaster29
Active Member
Unless a full on subway is built, I don't see the patterns changing from going NOrth/South to Bloor to connect to a subway. It takes too much time to move east/west.
Toronto Sherway Gardens Phase 1 Infill | 149.3m | 45s | Diamond Corp | Hariri Pontarini
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Amare
Senior Member
The TTC themselves acknowledge the earliest any extension would come online is 2040. More realistically, any kind of construction wouldnt start until 2040 at the earliest (Yonge North and Sheppard East/West extensions are all penciled in to go ahead of this), so realistically we're looking at this kind of timeline:
Yonge North: Major construction start late 2020s or early 2030s
Sheppard East and West: Major construction start early-mid 2030s
Bloor-Danforth West: Early-mid 2040s construction start (highly dependent on the Sheppard line timeline).
The above bolded are all speculative based on typical Ontario government meddling/changing of government which mess up transit timelines all the time.
jmi22
Active Member
I agree, but I think even a modest BRT- Lite could reduce travel times enough to get people onto the much higher capacity GO line instead of the already very capacity constrained Line 2. The 80 from Sherway to Parklawn takes roughly around 30 min during peak times, with dedicated lanes and stop consolidation I think getting that run time down to 20/15 min is doable. Greater reliability would also pull a lot of riders over as well.
fanoftoronto
Active Member
I think Toronto is averse to the "build it and they will come" mentality with transit construction. They did that for Sheppard and we still don't have sufficient demand or ridership on that line.
Besides, there are tons of other areas that have the demand now with no transit where we should be focusing on.
jmi22
Active Member
to be fair, we didn't let anybody build the housing to "let them come" on Sheppard for the first 15 years of the lines existence. The last time Toronto built a transit line and performed broad up zonings along the corridor (line 2) it was a massive success
sixrings
Senior Member
A mail parking lot. Zero NIMBYs.
Sunnyside
Active Member
I’m partial to the idea of extending Line 2 here to meet a westerly Ontario Line that is extended via Queensway/Gardiner (or some combination of the two), rather than trying to get OL to Kipling.
Northern Light
Superstar
This one is the subject of a still confidential Settlement Offer headed to next week's meeting of City Council.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
This article mentions that the site will have space for a “transit hub” to allow for Line 2 to extend west.
Amare
Senior Member
Yes there's provision and land set aside for a terminal, but no we wont see anything built until at least 2042-2043 at the earliest as per the TTC's own report. If memory serves me correct that would be closer to the corner of The West Mall and Queensway.
Frankly I think that's really optimistic, in my books nothing will even be conceived here until at least 2050.