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Lachlan Holmes said:
I'm pretty excited to see what's proposed. I personally don't think high and mid rise residential would be a bad idea on the site, it's a fascinating location. The only 'definite no' from me would be a casino.
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I staunchly disagree. I don't think residential is appropriate for Ontario Place.
 
narduch said:
We are already building full fledged casinos in Whitby and at Woodbine. And isn't casino gaming on the decline in general.

A casino at Ontario Place is a stupid idea.
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Try and tell that to DoFo. I'm sure he's already having visions of a full-fledged entertainment complex packed with a casino, monorail, ferris wheel and any other bright ideas we can copy from his second love (Chicago).

On a serious note, I expect Ontario Place will be sold off in some way, shape and form. We surprisingly havent heard of the province selling off of assets yet, but I suspect that will soon change especially around March (right around budget time).
 
WislaHD said:
The Exhibition Grounds are more appropriate locale for a casino than Ontario Place is, IMO.
Put Hotel X to good use (and ideally, crowd it out from the skyline).
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The issue is that the city owns Exhibition Place, otherwise that may have been Dougie's first choice. Again, I'm not advocating for a casino, but if it is to happen, I still see Ontario Place being more sheltered from the urban city than Exhibition Place (which is tied into Parkdale, Liberty Village, etc.) And when it comes to casinos, keeping them away from the urban fabric is my preference.

Amare said:
Try and tell that to DoFo. I'm sure he's already having visions of a full-fledged entertainment complex packed with a casino, monorail, ferris wheel and any other bright ideas we can copy from his second love (Chicago).
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I'd actually suggest Chicago is his first love. He only ever has praise for it and usually disdain for Toronto.
 
I think you may be wrong, but I suppose existing legislation regarding cities being "willing" recipients could change. Regardless, I also suspect this was part of the drive to cut city council to something more casino-friendly (even if the reality is that didn't really happen).
 
mjl08 said:
With the province in rough financial terrain, I can't imagine a redevelopment not including a casino. Any projections on how much revenue the Ontario Place casino would give the province?
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It's hard to tell quite how many morons and addicts would part wth their money here, as opposed to up a Woodbine, or out in Pickering, or Ajax, or Niagara, or Elora, or at Georgan Downs, or Windsor, or Orillia, or Gananoque, or…

Any new casino in Toronto would fleece a few more gamblers a little more often, sure, but it would also eat into the takings from existing facilities in the province, likely doing more to fostering problem gambling than the few programs they fund to fight it. What up-side would there be? More tourism by the deluded?

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interchange42 said:
It's hard to tell quite how many morons and addicts would part wth their money here, as opposed to up a Woodbine, or out in Pickering, or Ajax, or Niagara, or Elora, or at Georgan Downs, or Windsor, or Orillia, or Gananoque, or…

Any new casino in Toronto would fleece a few more gamblers a little more often, sure, but it would also eat into the takings from existing facilities in the province, likely doing more to fostering problem gambling than the few programs they fund to fight it. What up-side would there be? More tourism by the deluded?

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I have no doubt any proposed casino will be well attended. Having said that, given the relatively zero-sum nature of the industry - you'd be taking casino jobs away NF, Orillia, whatnot - places that can ill afford to lose those jobs. But hey, maybe they can get their MPPs to get DoFo's ears because karma?

AoD
 
Lenser said:
Obviously the ideal creation would be a casino on a monorail that doubles as a giant ferris wheel. On the lakefront, right where Ontario Place used to be. Now that's world class, folks.
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Also if we sprinkle a little bit of pixie dust on Ontario Place, it will bring magically bring billions of dollars into Ontario's coffers and show that Ontario is open for business as it would turn Ontario Place into a showcase area that's better than Chicago's Millennium Park.
 
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