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Went through these earlier and just thought on option E and F. Could they not close down simcoe between Richmond and queen for the lay down area? And possibly for the key hole?
 
LSO alternatives to current proposal
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Metrolinx Response to LSO alternatives

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What I find interesting is that the LSO did not propose, and seemingly neither did Mx at any point, the option of cut-and-cover on Queen, which my source mooted as an alternative worth considering.

Though of course, as noted, the drawback is that it works best if you end up putting the headhouse in the Queen St. ROW which definitely requires a permanent closure to cars of that section of Queen.

In the open-cut concept, it is also possible to put the headhouse in the University Avenue ROW, but the vertical circulation is a tad more roundabout.
 
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Northern Light said:
What I find interesting is that the LSO did not propose, and seemingly neither did Mx at any point, the option of cut-and-cover on Queen, which my source mooted as an alternative worth considering.

Though of the course, as noted, the drawback is that it works best if you end up putting the headhouse in the Queen St. ROW which definitely requires a permanent closure to cars of that section of Queen.

In the open-cut concept, it is also possible to put the headhouse in the University Avenue ROW, but the vertical circulation is a tad more roundabout.
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im also a fan of the cut and cover on queen, to make better circulation in regards to the Line1 and ontario line platforms. The biggest mistake in my opinion is not having a direct connection between line 1 and the Simcoe entrance. The reason i think metrolinx doesn't mention the cut and cover method is because it would require the queen streetcar diversion to be extended to Spadina. The current diversion via York would not work, and that would require a complete reengineering of the station. Honestly worth it in my opinion but the consordium would probably request a new contract be issued as the delay would be singnificant.
 
dullturtle06 said:
im also a fan of the cut and cover on queen, to make better circulation in regards to the Line1 and ontario line platforms. The biggest mistake in my opinion is not having a direct connection between line 1 and the Simcoe entrance. The reason i think metrolinx doesn't mention the cut and cover method is because it would require the queen streetcar diversion to be extended to Spadina. The current diversion via York would not work, and that would require a complete reengineering of the station. Honestly worth it in my opinion but the consordium would probably request a new contract be issued as the delay would be singnificant.
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I'd be willing to choose a different option, if the costs, in both time and money were entirely unreasonable (in the cut and cover Queen option); but I would like to see the option discussed so that we can all weigh in on the trade offs.

An extra 50M for argument's sake, on a 20B project, with a delay of six months or less would be entirely reasonable to build a much better station.

An extra 250M and a 2-year delay would be rather hard to swallow.

Lets just have an open-airing of the trade-offs, rather than a defensive, secretive posture.
 
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generalcanada said:
www.thestar.com

Metrolinx ordered to halt tree removal, once again, at Osgoode Hall

The move comes after an appeal was filed by the Haudenosaunee Development Institute Saturday morning.
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LOL are the same people going to complain that metrolinx cut the trees "expecting an appeal" and it was "bad faith" that they cut them down?
i wonder
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If they wanted to operate as good stewards of public projects they would have delayed it. No work is even being done at this site for months after the trees are removed. But they are not interested in anyone questioning them.
 
Northern Light said:
I'd be willing to choose a different option, if the costs, in both time and money were entirely unreasonable (in the cut and cover Queen option); but I would like to see the option discussed so that we can all weigh in on the trade offs.
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Seems like a no-brainer. There is almost nothing that would make the downtown core better than closing that part of Queen to cars. It would easily pay off in tourist dollars in a pretty short time frame.

But of course, they won't do it.
 
Allandale25 said:
Any news on the Judge's decision for the latest injunction?
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My understanding is that on Friday the court did not grant the LSO's request for an extension of the injunction. It also rejected a similar request by the Haudenosaunee Development Institute.

Metrolinx then proceeded to chop down more trees.

On Saturday morning, the HDI appealed this decision to the Court of Appeal, which ordered Metrolinx to stop work until a hearing is held on Tuesday.

My personal opinion is that this appeal has little chance of success, but I am not as familiar with HDI's arguments.
 
Mystic Point said:
This LINE will never be built. It's blue smoke and mirrors.
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I'm not sure how it won't be built now, given the contracts that have already been dished out. These aren't old fashioned 1990s Eglinton West contracts where you can just cancel the contract after work starts, with minimal penalties.
 
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