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Thanks for the info. If you can, are you able to elaborate on what other errors there are on the map?

I guess we are a long way from anything that resembles Peter Dougherty's NYC trackbook.
  • Rail crossover omissions and arbitrary inclusions (there will be no crossover near city hall, it will be near St Michaels).
  • Arbitrary track alignment, suggesting tracks will run on both outer sides of the joint corridor with GO tracks between
  • Arbitrary choices to draw stations as island or outside platforms
I’m appalled someone took the time to make this addition to the website so poorly. You need only read the publicly available environmental assessments and track alignment documents to understand where this track will go exactly.

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  • Rail crossover omissions and arbitrary inclusions (there will be no crossover near city hall, it will be near St Michaels).
  • Arbitrary track alignment, suggesting tracks will run on both outer sides of the joint corridor with GO tracks between
  • Arbitrary choices to draw stations as island or outside platforms
I’m appalled someone took the time to make this addition to the website so poorly. You need only read the publicly available environmental assessments and track alignment documents to understand where this track will go exactly.

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At one point the two subway tracks weren't on the north side. Perhaps much of this is that it's not been updated to reflect changes.
 
Thanks for the info. If you can, are you able to elaborate on what other errors there are on the map?

I guess we are a long way from anything that resembles Peter Dougherty's NYC trackbook.
The Crosstown, for instance, has a number of errors on it. There is no spare track east of Don Mills, the double-crossover east of Pharmacy is actually two single crossovers, etc.

The access to Greenwood Yard (the "wye") shows a crossover where the tracks pass under/over each other.

There are some smaller issues with the streetcar system - missing curves or extra curves, that kind of thing.

On the heavy rail system, there are some issues with the trackage layout in places. The top of the Richmond Hill line, for instance, is missing sidings and additional trackage north of Doncaster.

Now, I don't mean for this to be a slagging of the website - to the contrary, it is a terrific resource that I too use from time-to-time. And while I would like to see errors corrected and updates made more frequently, I also realize that it is the work of one (or a very small number of) volunteer(s), and so they need to work on their own schedule - not mine. I can be patient.

  • Rail crossover omissions and arbitrary inclusions (there will be no crossover near city hall, it will be near St Michaels).
  • Arbitrary track alignment, suggesting tracks will run on both outer sides of the joint corridor with GO tracks between
  • Arbitrary choices to draw stations as island or outside platforms
I’m appalled someone took the time to make this addition to the website so poorly. You need only read the publicly available environmental assessments and track alignment documents to understand where this track will go exactly.

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In this case, they added the info to the map well before the EA was complete and the alignment finalized. They went by the projections and pronouncements, and haven't updated it as the politicians and organizations walked all those back.

Dan
 
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Machines showing up at Pape & Sammon.

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Now that a few of the downtown sites are moving towards beginning excavation of the access shafts, I'm curious to see how this is accomplished.

Maybe it will be similar to how Avenue road was mined out? Though I'm not even sure how they got these walls of concrete poured between the piles (see quoted post below), im only used to seeing lagging walls or caisson walls in excavations. Anybody that would happen to have any insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
 
Now that a few of the downtown sites are moving towards beginning excavation of the access shafts, I'm curious to see how this is accomplished.

Maybe it will be similar to how Avenue road was mined out? Though I'm not even sure how they got these walls of concrete poured between the piles (see quoted post below), im only used to seeing lagging walls or caisson walls in excavations. Anybody that would happen to have any insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
It's gonna be secant piles wall (1+1 configuration) to bedrock and then rock excavation to -40m from street level.
Once both shafts are excavated, a mined tunnel will be digged underneath Yonge & Queen (existing Queen station) to connect them.

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In the Don Valley behind and south of the Science Centre, they have over the past several weeks moved the bike path access from the OSC Gateway parking lot slightly further north and are constructing an access road to west and south of the archery range. Photos from today.

Relocated bike path from OSC parking lot and adjacent access road.
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From the new bike path looking along road towards archery range.
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Access road next to valley path.
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End of access road looking east.
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Same point looking west. I assume the bridge will go directly overhead, just to the north of the hydro lines.
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Ontario Line subway project price tag increases by billions of dollars​


A Metrolinx rapid transit project report prepared for late June shows the Ontario Line is now set to cost taxpayers $27.2 billion to build and operate, a 43 per cent increase from two years ago. The project has, so far, cost taxpayers $5 billion in construction costs, with almost $600 million spent between January and April this year.
A senior government source told Global News the cost increase from $19 billion to $27 billion includes money for wear and tear on the project, as well as funds to cover unexpected lifecycle costs. It also takes into account property acquisition costs to build the subway line and general operating funds over 30 years.
 

Ontario Line subway project price tag increases by billions of dollars​

I'll wait for Steve Munro's analysis before making any judgments.


Anyway, from the article:
The source said that all major contracts for the Ontario Line had now been awarded.
It's happening!
 

Ontario Line subway project price tag increases by billions of dollars​


Just feels like the reporter is mixing up and conflating construction cost and construction cost plus 30-year lifecycle cost. I still don't get a sense from this article what the construction cost only increase has been. Maybe it's the writing style. A chart would have helped.
 

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