Coolstar
Senior Member
Cost comparison comparing the OL to the RLS.
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Undead
Senior Member
That confidence interval tho lol
nfitz
Superstar
Wow, way to completely not answer the first question.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Longer lines typically have a lower per-km cost than shorter line. One-off costs, such as the Maintenance Storage Facility, being spread out over larger scope favour the longer line in these comparisons. The RLN would almost certainly have a lower per km cost than the RLS, likely making the per-km cost of the entire RL project more or less equal to the OL.
ARG1
Senior Member
That doesn't make sense though, RLS didn't even include a maintenance facility in its design. The projected cost of the OL includes operating costs, costs of new vehicles, and the MSF. RLS only has the tracks, stations, and new vehicles, and operating cost. If the OL is cheaper per km even including the maintenance facility, then that's looking at OL even more favourably.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
The Greenwood Yards on Line 2 would have been used for the Relief Line trains. The Line 2 trains would have been moved to the larger Obico (west of Kipling Station). Would still need the Obico yard with or without the Relief Line, as more capacity would be needed anyways on Line 2.
Deadpool X
Senior Member
With Ontario Line, Obico yard would have be made much larger and that will cost a lot of money. The added cost won't be marginal.
ARG1
Senior Member
What? What does the Ontario Line have anything to do with the Obico Yard? The Obico yard if built will only service Line 2 trains. If anything, since Ontario Line runs on its own stock the Obico Yard would only have to be built smaller...
AHK
Senior Member
More ground sampling work in the King and Bathurst area. This rig is in the laneway beside 58 Stewart Street - scheduled to be here for approximately four weeks, according to the notice sent to area residents. After all the ground sampling already done in this area - Wellington Street, Portland Street itself, Bathurst, Niagara, multiple spots around the intersection of Niagara and Tecumseth. Apparently - this bore hole is to be 60 Meters deep - in other words between 195 and 200 feet deep.
kotsy
Senior Member
Good call! Absolutely love that track and video.
Deadpool X
Senior Member
Sorry I meant RL.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
They are also looking for pockets of methane gas underground. Methane gas is odourless and colourless, and can explode or catch fire. Methane is the main constituent of natural gas. That's why there is all that drilling and testing for any underground whatever.
nfitz
Superstar
In Toronto? Not likely ... they'll monitor for it, as is standard. But they aren't looking for it.
It's either geotechnical, hydrogeological, or they've found contaminants.
Though 60 metres is deep ... though when I'm getting locates, I often put in that deep, when I'm only planning on going 20, so there aren't any surprises.
robmausser
Senior Member
Its always been my suspicion that the Chemical Brothers and the video director wanted to do this track idea for Pioneer Skies (another song on the same album released the same time), but the label picked Star Guitar as the single (labels often pick the single)
I mean, the track Pioneer Skies has train sounds in it.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Wondering if the trains for the Ontario Line would be modelled on REM cars being manufactured for the Montréal new rapid transit line. Likely be high platform. The REM cars use overhead catenary, don't know if the Ontario Line will use catenary or third rail.
From link.
From link.
- Length: 76.20 m (250’) at peak hours
- Width: 2.94 m (9’8’’) or 17% wider than Azur cars
- Height: 3.90 m (12’10’’) excluding the pantograph
- Maximum weight: 232 tonnes
- Theoretical capacity: 600 passengers per car
- Maximum capacity: 780 passengers per car
- Seats: 128
- The average speed in motion will be 51 km/h.