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Toronto-Niagara Bike Train Schedule Announced

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Explore Niagara by Bike... Get There by Train!

The Bike Train, which introduced bike racks onboard select VIA Rail departures between Toronto and Niagara Falls, will be operating on an expanded schedule this summer. It is an innovative new service in partnership funded by the ministry of the Environment and the Greenbelt Foundation. To find out more information, check out www.biketrain.ca.
 
While a great initiative, the cost of this is absolutely prohibitive. Why does a 2hr train ride to Niagara cost $60 round trip? It should be like $20 - $30 maximum. That and that fact there is only one departure from Toronto daily shows how bad train service is in Canada. No wonder everyone drives to Niagara Falls.
 
The regular return service from Niagara to Toronto (either Niagara Falls or St Catharines stations) is abysmal though. The train that is supposed to stop in Niagara Falls during the dinner hour is always late by at least an hour (I've actually been told by the station attendant to take the bus because they literally had no clue when the train would arrive it was so far off schedule). This is because the line is actually run by Amtrak and the train originates in NYC.

Is the bike train specifically a Via train? or do they have a deal with amtrak for this?
 
VIA has started running a third round trip in the tourist season during weekends. These trains are the ones the bike stowage is being offered.

I think part of the idea might be to take the train one way, and bike back. You could do Niagara-Hamilton (supposedly by June, GO will have bike racks on its Hamilton QEW service) as well.

You can take your bike on the GO Train as far as Aldershot as well. I'm thinking of exploring Hamilton that way by bike, I'm less interested in the inflexable bike train.

Amtrak California offers bike storage (free) on most of its trains. VIA should do this on more of its trains.
 
"supposedly by June, GO will have bike racks on its Hamilton QEW service"

By GO Bus? I know so many people that wish they could take their bike on GO buses. That will be a nice improvement.
 
Amtrak/VIA Train #63 delays-NYP-TWO

JN 12: One of the major reasons that the thru Amtrak Maple Leaf gets delayed is at Customs-once the train reaches Customs-may it be USA or Canada they have full jurisdiction-the train schedule then becomes secondary.
With the way that Customs inspections are being done today,some riders frustrated by train delays end up driving or taking the bus instead because the train becomes less competitive.

CN has petitioned to possibly abandon the connecting track on the Whirlpool/Suspension Bridge-about half a mile or so of track-that would end thru train service between NY State and Southern Ontario if it is implemented.
The on-time performance of this train would improve if the service ran separately-but if it is a big hassle for thru riders crossing the border at NFS it may suffer again.

That's my two cents here-LI MIKE
 
It's too bad we couldn't have passengers clear customs in the station a la Eurostar. Obviously, we're looking at a bit different service because Via/Amtrak makes stops along the way and you can't possibly put customs in each station, but I feel that's the only way you can rectify the issue. If we could clear customs in the station, the train would be on par with a plane. At Porter, there is a team of Customs agents for only 7 flights per day (spread out between 8am and 10pm) and that's for at maximum 70 passengers (and more often than not, much much less), so it's not like you need massive loads to qualify a customs station. Also,there's no reason why a border between two very friendly nations should impede the ability the travel in a timely matter. We wouldn't expect planes to land at the border so passengers can be checked, so why do we accept this in train travel?

The solution to me would be to set up a Customs facility in Union Station, Niagara Falls' Station or Buffalo's Station, and New York's Station (penn? Central?) and make it so that way passengers traveling across the border could not get off/on except for at these stops with separate cars for separate destinations. Passengers travelling from smaller centres (St Catharines, let's say) could only travel domestically, and would need to go to a hub to meet an international train.

Of course, all of this is based on there being a strong market for international train travel. I don't think we're at that point at the moment, but maybe the introduction of high speed rail service along with climbing oil prices would help.
 
Train delays thru Customs on Amtrak's Maple Leaf...

JN 12: The problem here is that thru and sealed cars that have cleared Customs will just not work here-Amtrak's Maple Leaf travels 464 miles from Penn Station in NYC across NY State in a multi-stop 8+ hour journey.

US Customs screens passengers boarding the Amtrak Cascades Service to Seattle on the W coast at the Vancouver Station-Canada Customs does the same with arriving passengers.
The Border is 25 or so miles S and the train does not stop again in Canada.

I recall two trains that operated across the border with a customs inpection were: The Amtrak NYC-Detroit Niagara Rainbow back in the 70s-this train operated from 1975 until February 1,1979 when Amtrak discontinued it-operated thru Southern Ontario-customs did a seal-type inspection and screened passengers destined for points like St.Thomas,Ont.

The other was I believe VIA Rail's Montreal-Halifax Atlantic that operated across the center of Maine-US Customs did a similar inspection sealing and checking Maine-bound riders.

The Maple Leaf train getting delayed going thru Customs makes the time factor so much more then driving or taking a bus-particularly for short haul riders traveling say from Toronto to Buffalo being a good example.
I wanted to mention that the Maple Leaf changes crews at Niagara Falls,ONT also-a VIA train crew operates this train to Toronto with Amtrak equipment.

My observation here is that once was one of the World's most friendly borders
is today not so friendly anymore-definitely not a good thing to me.
Observation and opinion from LI Mike
 
Another prime cause of Amtrak Maple Leaf delays...

JN 12: Another prime cause of delay of Amtrak's Maple Leaf is how CSX handles the train-especially on the busy Albany-Buffalo main line. CSX is the owner of the Hudson Line from Poughkeepsie to Albany and then from Hoffmanns(just W of Schenectady)to Buffalo and the Niagara Frontier.
Freight train interference can cause delays also. Back when Conrail operated these lines Amtrak had a better working relationship in the Empire Corridor then with CSX today. I had to mention that because Customs is not the only prime source of delays on the Maple Leaf. LI MIKE
 
Amtrak California offers bike storage (free) on most of its trains. VIA should do this on more of its trains.


After so many years I have often wondered if VIA had some kind of religious prohibition about carrying bikes.
 

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