ptbotrmpfn
Senior Member
This proposal is dang ugly. What is with some people’s vision.
Toronto Motto | 47.85m | 13s | Sierra | RAW Design
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Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
I don't know about doing justice for heritage preservation, but at least those facadectomies often result in a more pedestrian friendly environment than otherwise, which is a good trade-off to me.
junctionist
Senior Member
I agree. That was actually the point of my earlier comment, namely that "facade preservation would force them to create a finer grained street level than just a long wall of glass."
If these aren't heritage properties, so be it. But the quality of the end result would be better with preservation I think.
Amare
Senior Member
While in certain cases I could definitely agree with those statements, there are various cases we've seen throughout the city where it just allows for lazy streetwall integrations.
For example, one that comes to mind is the ongoing 160 Front project which is a prime example of just lazy historical preservation. There you had a stunning warehouse style building where interesting things could have been done to integrate it into the overall development (ie: having a cantilever over it). However instead of that looking into that, all we're getting is a lazy hack facendecomy job.
On the other hand, you have projects such as Queen-Richmond Centre where the historical interegration is second to none, because the developer actually used some imagination and did more than just a lazy facendectomy job.
junctionist
Senior Member
Warehouse facade preservation is somewhat different, though, because warehouses tend to be bigger structures than Victorian main street commercial buildings. There's less of a fine grain to begin with.
Also, with regard to heritage warehouse preservation, one wonders if it's enough to preserve just the facade when the interiors with exposed wood columns and brick walls often seem just as significant as the exterior facades.
Also, with regard to heritage warehouse preservation, one wonders if it's enough to preserve just the facade when the interiors with exposed wood columns and brick walls often seem just as significant as the exterior facades.
AlbertC
Superstar
AlbertC
Superstar
980, 982, 984, 986 and 990 Bloor Street West and 756 Dovercourt Road - Rental Housing Demolition Application - Final Report
This item was considered by the Toronto and East York Community Council on June 18, 2020 and adopted without amendment. It will be considered by City Council on June 29, 2020.
This item was considered by the Toronto and East York Community Council on June 18, 2020 and adopted without amendment. It will be considered by City Council on June 29, 2020.
TrickyRicky
Senior Member
Many of the building facades you see on this stretch are actually themselves grafted onto the original residential houses that lined the street. Unfortunately many of these properties are dubious shanty creations and aren’t really worth retaining. What is worth retaining are at least some of the human-scale lot widths; however, a mixture of narrow and wide spaces allows for a more diverse mix of potential uses in the neighbourhood.
someMidTowner
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Northern Light
Superstar
Brick is good; set back is fine; but monolith visual at ground level needs to go.
Want to see a bit of fine-grain in appearance if not reality.
Break it up a bit.
The podium is a tad dull, it's ok; but just breaking it up would help.
ADRM
Senior Member
The black band for the signage is really rough; it totally ruins the flow of the podium (if a flow can be purported to exist at all here).
Ward8
Active Member
That street level is really bad urbanism for this location. The rest of the building is quite nice, but the part that matters most is a blank glass wall that just begs the pedestrian to cross the street and walk elsewhere. Toronto needs some sort or protection for fine grain lot sizes. Appropriate density could easily be achieved with a lot by lot approach. I guess this would be improved if they continued the red brick down to street level?
ProjectEnd
Superstar
Bad news: Sierra has gotten hold of this...
AlbertC
Superstar
The same folks who brought us Platform Condos over at Greenwood & Danforth...
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Platform Condos | 31.09m | 9s | Sierra | Kirkor Architects
We are working on our UrbanToronto Year-End Poll for the best buildings completed in 2020. This is one of the projects that we expect has wrapped up, but we will require a photo update showing the last bits complete to be included. If anyone is in the area, photos would be very helpful!
TossYourJacket
Senior Member
Can't wait for the great bloor st spandral wallThe same folks who brought us Platform Condos over at Greenwood & Danforth...
Platform Condos | 31.09m | 9s | Sierra | Kirkor Architects
We are working on our UrbanToronto Year-End Poll for the best buildings completed in 2020. This is one of the projects that we expect has wrapped up, but we will require a photo update showing the last bits complete to be included. If anyone is in the area, photos would be very helpful!
