Sunnyside
Active Member
This made me think, people asking for a DLR-like service along the waterfront would sure be happy if it turns out the planned streetcars aren’t sufficient. That aside, what’s happening is typical Toronto-area planning; density first, transit after. The sad part is this is a site where transit could’ve been the first and maybe easiest thing to get built, but now anything more than an LRT (maybe even that) will have to plan around what’s already in place.Sure, but to the average person, the core is not walking distance for commuting, school or a grocery store.
For this kind of density, the Ontario Line needs to have a stop in this community. The Waterfront East LRT and Broadview LRT, will not have sufficient capacity to move the projected population.
We need a High School, among other amenities to make this work. There is no indication that the supporting infrastructure will be in place.
Sure, but there are other alternatives.
1) Stop growing the population; that's a choice.
2) We can can place more moderate density across a much larger area.
I’m obviously just echoing what’s been said before, but I do think intuitively that the ideal density for streetcars is obvious in Toronto’s historic urban fabric. This density is (much?) less than what is being built in the east waterfront-portlands… and will be denser still than the corresponding ‘new’ areas in the west (LV, West Waterfront, etc). So that begs the question, is a handful of streetcar projects feeding into East Harbour really going to be enough? I see issues with existing westbound riders from the east now mixing with the many new riders here and further west.
So, In light of the changes at this site, I generally just feel like there should be more to support everything existing and planned in the south east, not just the NE via the OL/GO corridor. I think you are right that these services are just too far to adequately serve the now-greater needs here. Perhaps we should at least have an idea for next steps.