Markham Langstaff Gateway | ?m | ?s | Condor Properties Ltd | IBI Group

[nimby407]

Why would you sacrifice limited developable land for a station? It makes sense that there was some minor horse trading to consolidate the site when the developer and province signed whatever their deal is.

I would argue that land adjacent to Yonge St, adjacent to a HWY 407 on-ramp would be an ideal location for a significant bus interchange station. Instead, we will get Bridge Station which will be the most expensive above grade subway station ever constructed.

 

[TJ O'Pootertoot]

I guess I can't evaluate that claim without evidence of the cost (either of the planned terminal or your alternative) but that intersection is not well-suited to a bus facility and none was contemplated in the prior plans and we're talking about slivers of provincial land so... Maybe. But I'm not convinced.

 

[shortbranch]

Already tagged!

 

[TJ O'Pootertoot]

Behold, the raging waters of Pomona Creek, in all their glory...

 

[NW87]

Looking West with the 407 and Hwy. 7 visible.

I take it this remaining house doesn't interfere with the current stage of work?

Looking North towards Langstaff GO and the busy CN Bala Sub.

 

[TJ O'Pootertoot]

Nice pics. Drones are fun, eh?

That house is a heritage house they have to preserve and move. There's a Markham report on it ("The Munshaw House") here:

https://pub-markham.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?documentid=62802

I don't know if they're relocating it somewhere else in the development or somewhere else but that's why it's still there for now, anyway.

 

[Undead]

That's heritage?...

 

[CapitalSeven]

That's heritage?...

As the report notes, it's 215 years old, stands in its original location, and is a survivor of early settlement. We have the same old question: is heritage that sort of thing, or "whatever I find pretty"?

 

[Undead]

I get it's old, but I do think architectural merit should also factor in whether we preserve something. This shack has no such merit.

 

[TJ O'Pootertoot]

Eye of the beholder yada yada.
It's been legally designated for a while and went through the proper processes.

Heritage planners made the call and the fact that it's been left in crappy condition doesn't really change that and I'm not an expert capable of contesting it but I suspect calling it a "Shack" is a bit unfair.

I was just answering the question so don't shoot the messenger. The developers seem to have got a nice deal from the province so why not make em preserve one of the very few remnants of the old Langstaff community?

 

[Jason1980]

Any chance this development as it is presented survives? They have been working on the earth moving for almost three years, and some of those business's have been vacated. Will there be construction on all the subway infrastructure and all the new buildings at the same time? Always seems to take so long for these projects.

 

[TJ O'Pootertoot]

This development is like a 30-year build-out and it hasn't started yet. The first 2 towers must be close to approval and obviously some elements have to wait on the subway.

I'm sure it will "survive" as it's a sweetheart deal on prime land. Whether the Max Heights are achieved and how long it all takes, we'll see.