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jmb said:
Can you point me to specifically where? I've gone over that site in the past and the best I could find was reference to spending $750k to have some limited detailed design done. https://www.engagewr.ca/9466/widgets/37498/documents/70014
It also references intending to use the $43m secured already to pay for it, but doesn't say phase one will consume the whole amount (nor exactly what is included in their planning, just generically "to ensure that site circulation, parking, bus loop and passenger pick up and drop off area are coordinated and can be ready for use"

The link you provided in your previous quote gives a security error. I think you may need to copy the URL on the website, rather than the amazon url it redirects you to.

Thanks, it's great to have hard numbers to work from rather than making rather speculative estimates.
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I can't seem to get static links, but my only sources are the 3 documents linked on the home page: "King-Victoria Project Update", "Design Development & Funding Project Update" and "Assumption of Duke Street ...".

There are no official "Phase 1" and "Phase 2", those are just terms I made up to clearly distinguish the funded (2022-2023) and unfunded (TBD) portions of the work.

The $43 Million is indeed the funding that has already been secured for the project, and reading between the lines, it sounds like the items included in Phase 1 (i.e. the stuff that's getting built), is as much as possible within that budget. The items themselves are those highlighted in the diagram which I copied into my post. If they were not planning to build the Waterloo Street pedestrian tunnel, then they also wouldn't build the north platform (and thus wouldn't have highlighted it in the diagram). Furthermore they state in the Update report: "Metrolinx is committed to moving forward with the work within the adjacent rail corridor to relocate their platform to the King-Victoria Transit Hub site as a critical part of the Kitchener Line expansion in preparation for two-way all-day GO service". Note that it's "the work", not "some of the work". A likely exception is the Duke Street pedestrian & bicycle tunnel, since it was a very late addition to the project and thus has not yet been designed (note on the diagram that there are no ramps to allow bicycles to enter the tunnel).

The $63M for "phase 2", is the project's total $106.1M project budget (per Funding update), minus the $43M which they already secured. The Update report states on page 2: "The King-Victoria Transit Hub station building and plaza construction is not immediately required to support the relocated Metrolinx platform and therefore would not form part of [Phase 1]. Subject to funding availability, however, this could commence immediately following [Phase 1]". The implication here being that everything other than the building and plaza were already included in Phase 1.
 
The new trail is basically complete, not overly pretty but it's functional.

Oddly no signs of where this side is supposed to connect to the platform unless that was cut. If so, big loss..

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View from the trail:

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emphur said:
Oddly no signs of where this side is supposed to connect to the platform unless that was cut. If so, big loss..
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The station construction scheduled for later this year includes a new bicycle bridge over King Street to connect this new path to the new station.

See on the western side of this diagram (highlighted in blue)
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that will also cut the walk for Google Employees from their garage substantially. When I first saw them building the garage where they are I was very confused but it makes sense when seeing all the new pedestrian infrastructure which will make it a quite reasonable walk from their offices.
 
innsertnamehere said:
that will also cut the walk for Google Employees from their garage substantially. When I first saw them building the garage where they are I was very confused but it makes sense when seeing all the new pedestrian infrastructure which will make it a quite reasonable walk from their offices.
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True, though now that you mention it, the station doesn't seem to have a direct route to the platforms from the King Street sidewalks when you're coming from the north. There are ramps down from the south platform on both sides of King Street toward the south, which is a bit of a detour if you're coming from the north.

But more problematically, there is no access from the north platform to King Street at all. The westernmost access to that platform is the Waterloo Street pedestrian tunnel. Which also means that there's no indoor connection from the north platform to the station building either.
 
A few tedious pics of the site for the new Terminal. Not a thing seems to have happened since the antediluvian, still, notices lately have indicated that detailed design work is being done at this point, and the bus dropoff and pickup area will be the first to be worked on.
Link to a CBC article here.

The fenced-off lot whereon la Terminal is to sit. (Looking north-ish from King W & Victoria)
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Looking easterly along Victoria from King W.
The area to the left of the white "Region Of Waterloo Transit Hub" sign will hold most of the station proper, the area between it and the reddish Rumpel Felt Building will be for bus pickup and dropoff.
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A view from just a few steps north on King W...
The foreground area that's mostly field here will be mostly open plaza according to the current plans. I have to admit, this is part of the plan that seems a bit odd. Personally, I'd rather have a bit more indoor space to the terminal with some more retail in it and/or enlivening the street outside. But, whatevah.
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The whole site looking east-ish from the west side of King St. W
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This thread will be used for discussion of the King Victoria Transit Hub (KVTH): a proposed 2-storey multi-modal transit hub and public space development providing connections to ION, GRT, GO, VIA, pedestrians and cyclists; designed by WZMH Architects for Metrolinx and Waterloo Region on the northwest corner of King Street West and Victoria Street North in Downtown Kitchener.

Relevant posts have been copied from the Waterloo Region Transit Developments thread. Please keep discussion relevant to Waterloo Region Transit, GRT, ION, etc. in general in that thread, and discussion relevant to the KVTH building in this thread.

Main rendering from WZMH posted below, additional renderings and plans can be found upthread or in the database page, via the project's EngageWR page.
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I don't get it.
The lot that was just bought [ at Duke and Victoria] is a long way east of the proposed new terminal. It sits between the current GO-VIA station and the proposed new one.
Why is this land listed as being part of the new terminal? Or is it simply some kind of density upzone or somesuch?
 
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