Toronto KING Toronto | 57.6m | 16s | Westbank | Bjarke Ingels Group

UtakataNoAnnex said:
From some of the pics more of late posted suggests it's there...they just haven't broken it out of the packaging as of yet for some reason. /sigh
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Can you imagine how expensive it is to have the project literally stand still during a time of high interest rates? no envelope, no interior progress....just standing still
 
Alexxs said:
Can you imagine how expensive it is to have the project literally stand still during a time of high interest rates? no envelope, no interior progress....just standing still
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Yeah unfortunate for West Bank regarding their glass supplier.
Bad planning on their part?
Who did the due diligence and credit check on this glass supplier before they declared bankruptcy?
For owners, they avoided the highest interest rate period so it may work ini their favour
 
karledice said:
Yeah unfortunate for West Bank regarding their glass supplier.
Bad planning on their part?
Who did the due diligence and credit check on this glass supplier before they declared bankruptcy?
For owners, they avoided the highest interest rate period so it may work ini their favour
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Why do you think their glass supplier has gone bankrupt? Why do you think that they are not just waiting to start glass installation until their glass crews can work on this full time? UTers are often too eager to panic and assume disaster before we need to.
 
DSC said:
Why do you think their glass supplier has gone bankrupt? Why do you think that they are not just waiting to start glass installation until their glass crews can work on this full time? UTers are often too eager to panic and assume disaster before we need to.
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...to be fair though, I think it's more head scratching than panic here.
 
UtakataNoAnnex said:
...to be fair though, I think it's more head scratching than panic here.
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Saying "Who did the due diligence and credit check on this glass supplier before they declared bankruptcy?" with no evidence provided that anyone has declared bankruptcy or that the glass order is in danger looks more like panic than head scratching to me. .
 
DSC said:
Why do you think their glass supplier has gone bankrupt? Why do you think that they are not just waiting to start glass installation until their glass crews can work on this full time? UTers are often too eager to panic and assume disaster before we need to.
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The glass supplier said that the glass supplier was bankrupt, through their insolvency trustee. Assuming thr poster was referring to last year's bankruptcy. I don't know that the replacement supplier has been confirmed?

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DSC said:
Why do you think their glass supplier has gone bankrupt? Why do you think that they are not just waiting to start glass installation until their glass crews can work on this full time? UTers are often too eager to panic and assume disaster before we need to.
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Because they announced that they've filed for bankruptcy Chapter 11 lol
 
Alexxs said:
Can you imagine how expensive it is to have the project literally stand still during a time of high interest rates? no envelope, no interior progress....just standing still
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Important to say the project is not at a stand still; there is definitely ongoing work as well documented by @AHK.

A fairer statement would be that work appears to be progressing more slowly than one would have anticipated, and that the issue w/the cladding supplier may well be a factor.

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karledice said:
Yeah unfortunate for West Bank regarding their glass supplier......
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While this is true, I am under the impression there is cladding on site. IF that is the case ( I expressed when I posted that I wasn't 100% confident on the source), I'm not sure why it isn't yet being applied.
 
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Northern Light said:
While this is true, I am under the impression there is cladding on site. IF that is the case ( I expressed when I posted that I wasn't 100% confident on the source), I'm not sure why it isn't yet being applied.
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Cladding systems are proprietary and not interchangeable or (for the most part) off-the-shelf. Some amount of the Integro cladding was on site, and a large quantity of it was stored off-site in a yard, but I don't believe the entire job had been fabricated at the time of the bankruptcy. And even if it had been fabricated, Westbank would be gambling to use it, given that the literally only company on earth that could have provided parts and materials no longer exists.

Then you have the installation problem. This was always going to be a bastard job to install, and the Integro system had serious issues during testing. No installer wants to be on the hook to deal with it. I wouldn't touch it. It's a black hole. Someone's going to go bankrupt (again) on it.

And then there was a design issue. This never should have been curtainwall in the first place. This job so obviously should have been specced as windowwall that it's almost absurd that it ended up as curtainwall. Put the glass blocks in a windowwall frame and call it a day. But here we are...
 
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whatever said:
Cladding systems are proprietary and not interchangeable or (for the most part) off-the-shelf. Some amount of the Integro cladding was on site, and a large quantity of it was stored off-site in a yard, but I don't believe the entire job had been fabricated at the time of the bankruptcy. And even if it had been fabricated, Westbank would be gambling to use it, given that the literally only company on earth that could have provided parts and materials no longer exists.

Then you have the installation problem. This was always going to be a bastard job to install, and the Integro system had serious issues during testing. No installer wants to be on the hook to deal with it. I wouldn't touch it. It's a black hole. Someone's going to go bankrupt (again) on it.

And then there was a design issue. This never should have been curtainwall in the first place. This job so obviously should have been specced as windowwall that it's almost absurd that it ended up as curtainwall. Put the glass blocks in a windowwall frame and call it a day. But here we are...
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...so what's their solution here? They can't leave it as is.
 
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