Tewder
Senior Member
... in part because people like ksun feel that only Montreal/Boston have any actual history cred'.
straw man argument. When did I ever say Asian style city building is great.
but the desperate strive to protect anything that is over 50 years old and include it in the new development is pretty funny and sad. In 500 years, this tower may be 600 years ago, and will still NOT be heritage and people will not stand on Yonge st and admire it. That's for sure.
Most Asian cities are too dense to effectively preserve most of the old buildings, many of which are of wood, not stone. However, there are plenty of Asian cities, the smaller ones where thousands of years old architecture and gardens are meticulously preserved, but I guess you have never been to Asia, have you? Most Canadians' experience with "Asia" is Singapore and Hong Kong probably. You think the entire Asia is like Singapore, Shanghai and Tokyo. Have you been to Kyoto and Suzhou for example before dissing the entire Asian style boomburg? Your typical disrespect for Asia only shows your utter ignorance. Even Shanghai, a relative new city has far more valuable and well protected heritage building than Toronto. But I guess you are too arrogant to know.
... which raises an interesting point in that maybe this is a very appropriate place for some sort of official commemoration, actually transforming the clock tower into a monument on its base sides? It could be Toronto's Stonewall!
The desperate strive to protect anything that is over 50 years old and include it in the new development is pretty funny and sad.
What i find funny is that users like ksun and thekingeast usually mock Toronto's heritage preservation however they rave about the heritage preservation in cities like Boston and Montreal.
Mike Layton @m_layton
The budget committee just voted 4-2 to cut 8 heritage & area planners from the 2015 budget. TO Heritage planning will be delayed years.
To be fair, a significant amount of The Bund is preserved. But to argue that's the only valid type of preservation is like saying only Commerce Court North, Old City Hall or Royal York is worth preserving. That's a very Asian approach, and we don't need to operate on such a manner here.
AoD
With regard to this clock tower, it is neither pretty nor historically significant,
As if Toronto is good at preserving heritage. What an exaggeration.
Where in my comment did i indicate that Toronto is good at preserving heritage?
And yes, there was a gay bar there, but what does it have anything to do with the clock tower? Nothing. The gay bar just happened to be underneath it. And that's "history" we can tell our children? Let's not cheapen history. Sorry, that tower doesn't reflect gay right history in Toronto. That is a huge stretch. There is hardly a story associated with the clock tower.