Toronto Etobicoke Civic Centre | 75.82m | 16s | CreateTO | Henning Larsen

[UtakataNoAnnex]

As with choosing paint colours, I feel that one should always look beyond the marketing names in favour of what colour you literally see in front of you.

What makes it gold? The renderings show beige-brown in my eyes. Real gold is the likes of Royal Bank Plaza.

Is says they're using gold coloured aluminum from the official exterior finishes examples posted by WislaHD a few entries previous. So I'll go by that.

 

[junctionist]

Is says they're using gold coloured aluminum from the official exterior finishes examples posted by WislaHD a few entries previous. So I'll go by that.

That might just be what the supplier calls it because gold sounds more appealing than beige-brown in today's market.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

That might just be what the supplier calls it because gold sounds more appealing than beige-brown in today's market.

Good architects don't choose the material and colour based on what's it's called by the vendor - you have sample chips and material palette for a reason. And honestly:

Colored gold - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

AoD

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

Because they call me pink doesn't mean I'm pink... /s

 

[Northern Light]

Report on advancing this project is on the agenda for the Jan 11th meeting of CreateTO

Report here: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2022/ra/bgrd/backgroundfile-174668.pdf

Not a lot that's new...........it's moving forward. But this is the City's schedule, as of now:

Not sure if we knew all of this or not:

 

[JoeParez]

That might just be what the supplier calls it because gold sounds more appealing than beige-brown in today's market.

This whole gold trend is getting out of hand, especially with anodizing.
The architect is probably looking for Gold Anodizing which costs an arm and a leg and there are very few vendors in Ontario that offer it.
The issue with it is that all your material has to be anodized at the same time to get the same finish and there is no guarantee that the batch will be consistent throughout. At some point, the vendor has to clean the tanks, and you'll get a variation on the finish, which ends up looking awful. Especially if welding is involved.

You can also get a post-painted gold mica finish, which is more consistent than anodizing. but for some reason architects balk at painted finishes.

I'm getting nightmares because my company did the interior panels at the Drake Hotel and the architect insisted on anodized finishes. We kept telling them (and made several samples) that for what they wanted to do, a painted finish would be so much better (not to mention the cost savings). Nope. Anodized. We threw away so many panels because of the inconsistencies.

/rant.

 

[Northern Light]

The timeline posted above seems to be confirmed by the proposed 10-year Capital Plan of Toronto Public Library:

https://torontopubliclibrary.typepad.com/board-meetings/2022-10-25/15-2023-2032-capital-budget-and-plan-submission-combined.pdf

Serious money (construction) starts to cash-flow in 2024 and the project shows a 2027 close-out.

 

[DSC]

Call Document Summary​

This is a secure site Notice of Intended Procurement Solicitation number: Doc3768637145 Commodity: Construction Services, Construction Services Description: Negotiated Request for Proposals for General Contracting Services for ECC This nRFP is an invitation by the City of Toronto (the “City”) to prospective vendors to submit Bids for General Contractor Services for the New Etobicoke Civic Centre. The City of Toronto (the "City") requires a qualified General Contractor (the "Vendor") to provide construction services for the new Etobicoke Civic Centre ("ECC") Project. The Successful Vendor shall provide complete construction services and will be solely responsible for all activities throughout the construction phase until the completion of the project including the warranty period. The nRFP will be posted on December 5, 2022 at which time the vendors will be able to review all documents by accessing SAP Ariba. A link will be provided once the solicitation has been opened in Ariba. Issue date: November 29, 2022 Closing date: January 30, 2023 at 12:00 Noon Notes: Attachment Doc3768637145_ECC General Contractor Services_NOIP.pdf (108 Kbytes) - Posted on 11/29/2022 05:09:15 PM Buyer: Shamas, Rimsha Phone number: 437-235-9549 Email: rimsha.shamas@toronto.ca Location: City Hall 18W Client Division: Corporate Real Estate Management

 

[apmYYZ]

Only one month away from scheduled shovels in the ground!

 

[Edllguy]

Only one month away from scheduled shovels in the ground!

Has a general contractor been approved/awarded for this project. I searched but could not find this.

Thanks

 

[Northern Light]

Has a general contractor been approved/awarded for this project. I searched but could not find this.

Thanks

If you look above, you'll note that the RFP only closed on January 30th.

Depending on how complex the tender, it's typically 3-5 weeks to go from closing to Bid Award (sometimes it can be much longer).

I'd be surprised to see it hit Bid Award Committee next week, but that's really the first chance. Towards the end of the month is a bit more likely.

 

[apmYYZ]

Some photos of the area before construction starts...

 

[apmYYZ]

Walked by the site yesterday and it appears there is some action taking place. Not sure what they are doing but maybe this is finally going to break ground?

 

[apmYYZ]

The site has once again gone quiet...

 

[Northern Light]

Permits have been applied for here; but most are not yet in process, none are issued: