Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[Chuck]

Density hub is stretching it a bit. Bessarion surely isn't a hub of anything.



You're right, Sheppard between Yonge and Don Mills is inexplicably a dense urban thoroughfare. I was driving along that stretch mid-afternoon the other day and I maybe saw five people walking. I might've seen a cyclist, too!

So what's your argument? That the subway should only be built to spur redevelopment? That only through almost two decades of rezoning and forced densification that the subway is justifiable? Maybe all the rezoning and condos are a result of the city trying to get a return on a poor investment?

We all need to stop forcing Sheppard to be something that it is not. Although transit and especially the subway can be strongly linked to new development, subways exist first and foremost to move large volumes of passengers. In the suburbs, that means drawing people from a larger geographical area and feeder bus routes.

Sheppard doesn't need to transform into College in order for the subway to be called a success. In this part of town, the benefit of condos is that they allow the population to grow without depending on greenfield developments. Being situated along a subway line that was needed anyway is the icing on the cake.

Think of the Sheppard subway as just one part of a growing network. As transit in the suburbs becomes more and more convenient, ridership will grow through latent demand. In this part of town, which is so close to employment nodes in the 905 area, allowing free transfers between transit systems will go a long way toward boosting ridership too.

 

[44 North]

I apologize for calling Sheppard "fringe" and making it sound like I believe it's unworthy of any investment. I do believe it's worthy of investment...just not as anything related to costly subways.

IMO, the only affordable way to make a quasi-circuitous rapid transit line - that echoes something akin to the TTC's 1969 plan or Network 2011 - is to use elevated Skytrain technology. Or at the very least, street-grade LRT.

 

[Dan416]

You know not to take someone seriously when they mention using SRT/SkyTrain technology

 

[ssiguy2]

Bombardier has come with a very interesting LRT technology that may be applicable to Toronto which does not require any pantographs. It is a sort of third rail/LRT hybrid and looks very interesting and can run on regular roadways as the power supply is on active when the trains are on that specific spot.
It has a recharging system and due to having no overhead wires maintenance costs are lower.
I don't know the cost of the system but if it is the same price as LRT it would be an excellent idea if Toronto ever builds any at grade LRT as it gets rid of the visual blight that is LRT overhead power lines.
Take a boo............. primovecity.bombardier.com and go to media centre and then push videos to take a look at it.
According to the Hamilton LRT websit, they are looking at it.

 

[klb86]

Soil testing on Eglinton

http://www.thecrosstown.ca/news-media/whats-new/soil-testing-for-tunnelling-and-stations

yep.

 

[Roots_Energize]

This cant happen soon enough, This is i think the most important transit expansion to happen in Toronto in decades! i live at Eglinton west and i can assure you that the traffic on this street is some of the worst in the city. Its becoming like an all day rush hour gridlock. Not only is it a major east west corridor , you got cars entering the city from allen road highway which connects to the 401. you cant turn down many of the side streets between 7am and 7pm which keeps vehicles on Eglinton. All i hear is horns honking outside my window, its crazy!

 

[Roots_Energize]

Shooting down to Yonge and Eglinton on underground light rail will be a breeze compared to the time consuming loud roaring crowded buses that i take now. I wonder about the future of this great city sometimes, like how can we possibly take in more cars on our roads then there already is, imagine millions more people moving here depending on cars, we cant handle it as a city. Eglinton is vital, we also need more transit announcements right now, with shovels in the ground by next year, i feel like anything else is self defeating due to how long it takes to build underground rappid transit.

 

[sixrings]

i too live on eglinton and truthfully i rarely see the allen southbound as a problem. however the north bound allen sometimes forms 30 car line ups from both the east and the west. Its deffinately more of a problem from the west though. I wish the allen north bound could be either tolled, closed completely, or closed coming from the west. Then again theres always the option to make the allen a road with traffic lights from lawrence to eglinton which would connect with all the paralel bridges that are over it.

 

[Roots_Energize]

^^^ Yes true but if you are going southbound on alllen trying to get to eglinton anywhere near rush hour or holidays it takes forever, anywhere between eglinton and yorkdale mall on Allen road is ram packed, you move a few inches here and there.

Yonge and Eglinton will become the new yonge and bloor in terms of pedestrian life, transit transfer point, and some new tall towers!

 

[sixrings]

^^^ Yes true but if you are going southbound on alllen trying to get to eglinton anywhere near rush hour or holidays it takes forever, anywhere between eglinton and yorkdale mall on Allen road is ram packed, you move a few inches here and there. !

This is true but it sure is handy at off peak hours. And even when it is full it doesnt destroy Eglinton like the northbound ramp does. It doesnt cause any extra congestion. It could be taken out but it just as well could stay to be used sparatically. The north bound allen on the other hand causes a diservice to Eglinton.

 

[Roots_Energize]

Despite the bad traffic Eglinton i agree is a great street, it has alot to offer to many different types of people, forest hill part just west of yonge , then farther west is little jamaica / international market, and some empty lots here and there that will become condos close to the future transit stops, york has alot of little villages that im sure lots of people might not be aware of, the cross town will definately plug this area further into the fabric of the urban city.

 

[borgo100]

Metrolinx just threw this update on twitter
Cool to know that PRESTO will work at every station.

 

[Dan416]

Metrolinx just threw this update on twitter
Cool to know that PRESTO will work at every station.

I would have expected no less.

 

[Markster]

I'm sure Metrolinx is pushing hard for Presto at every subway station by then.

 

[nfitz]

I'm sure Metrolinx is pushing hard for Presto at every subway station by then.

TTC has already said they will have completely installed PRESTO on all buses, streetcars as well as at subway stations by mid-2015. The Crosstown line isn't supposed to be completed until 2020. This doesn't seem like a big issue.