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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

Leo_Chan said:
I see some people commenting that Cedarvale is the new Spadina Station with the long transfer distance. Were there any plans early on to move the Eglinton West Station’s Line 1 platforms South similar to Eglinton Station’s being moved North?
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Because of the layout of the existing station and the limited clearances above and below, there was not really an opportunity to move the Crosstown's tracks north to shorten the transfer. The Crosstown's station envelops the running tunnels south of the Eglinton West platforms, requiring a split mezzanine and having the new fareline (and pedestrian tunnels) at quite a shallow depth.

Had they simplified the station (for instance, omitted the pedestrian tunnels on the north side of Eglinton, done away with a separate fareline, etc.) they could have brought its location north, although that would also pose other issues and complications with its construction.

Dan
 
thettctransitfanatic said:
Doug Ford's puppet makes a lot of noise but people wanna see results.
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To be fair to Doug Ford (and I'm no fan of his), I couldn't see the situation being much different if the Liberals or NDP were in charge. Instead of Michael Lindsay, we'd have some other guy feeding us the exact same BS.
 
Bojaxs said:
Doesn't bother me too much. When I was in London, England a lot of the Underground stations seemed to have long, winding tunnels commuters had to walk through to get above ground. Particularly with stations that had lines intersecting with each other and you had to transfer to another line. I think it's part and parcel when you're constructing a tunnel in an area of a city that already has a lot of underground infrastructure.
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Agreed. I was in Singapore and they too have massive tunnels in certain sections.

yea We all kmow what the best solution should look like (cross platform transfers) but Its hard to complain with what we finally have imo.
 
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A changed sign has appeared?
 
youngblood said:
That long corridor people are seeing is the underground walkway between the Cedarvale entrance west of the Allen and the Cedarvale entrance East of the Allen. The transfer distance between line 1 and line 5 is shorter.
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Yes I understand that the extremely long tunnel is the pedestrian tunnel between the two new north entrances.
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The longish walk I am referring to is the second corridor through the set of double doors.
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I haven't personally went to the station myself, but looking at the video walkthroughs is seems like a long walk, especially since this is the very southern end of the Line 1 platforms and not the middle of them.

A possible explanation is the sharp corner at the end of the connecting concourse, removing the sight lines and expectations when walking, so you don’t really see any progress for a while and then turn and you’re on the platform.

A minor point is regarding movement between the Northbound and Southbound platforms. Yes riders should be paying attention to whether they go down the left or right escalators or stairs from the entrance, or which escalators to go up from the Line 5 platforms to the lower concourse/Line 1 level. It definitely wouldn't be common use to start on the original Eglinton West entrance, walk all the way down the platforms, realize you're at the wrong direction, walk towards the Line 5 concourse, go through the doors, go up the escalators, and walk all the way to the other Line 1 platform.

Bojaxs said:
Doesn't bother me too much. When I was in London, England a lot of the Underground stations seemed to have long, winding tunnels commuters had to walk through to get above ground. Particularly with stations that had lines intersecting with each other and you had to transfer to another line. I think it's part and parcel when you're constructing a tunnel in an area of a city that already has a lot of underground infrastructure.
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Thank you for the additional perspective. I agree the extremely long tunnels for interchanges that are added far later than original stations and not aligning to street grid have their complications, and this Line 1 to Line 5 transfer is only mediumish distance on the system.

smallspy said:
Because of the layout of the existing station and the limited clearances above and below, there was not really an opportunity to move the Crosstown's tracks north to shorten the transfer. The Crosstown's station envelops the running tunnels south of the Eglinton West platforms, requiring a split mezzanine and having the new fareline (and pedestrian tunnels) at quite a shallow depth.

Had they simplified the station (for instance, omitted the pedestrian tunnels on the north side of Eglinton, done away with a separate fareline, etc.) they could have brought its location north, although that would also pose other issues and complications with its construction.
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The current final result is definitely an adequate setup to have. Now I'm wondering how painful the walk would have been if the Line 5 concourse entered the Line 1 platforms in the middle rather than the end, causing people who get off at the southern end needing to go north to the middle then backtrack south to get transfer to the Line 5 platforms.
 
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Over half of the stuff on their website uses the old name. This article says there were >7,000 paper maps and 150 signs to change when Downsview became Sheppard West, so I understand it taking time. But the web stuff? That should be pre-loaded and clocked to change automatically.

This name change is going to be 50% late like this whole line.
 
If it makes anyone feel better (though it may make you feel worse), today's Wikipedia front page "did you know" first headline is about an LRT station in Singapore that opened 20 years after construction completed. (It opened a year ago.)
 
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nfitz said:
200 metres the norm? That's near double the distance at Cedarvale. And surely it's relatively short at Eglinton, Mount Dennis, and Kennedy

Don Valley to the bus terminal is only about 100 metres. Caledonia should be miniscule transfering from the subway station to the GO station which is almost on top of the subway platform. On the Ontario Line, the transfers at Exhibition, Queen, Osgoode, and East Harbour look short. Hopefully Pape too, with the new platforms under the old platforms.

Might be some good walking distances to the bus terminals on the Line 2 extension ... but that appears to be the exception not the norm.
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If you're getting off a bus in the Mount Dennis terminal, you can expect to walk between 160 to 290 metres depending on which bay you get up at. The walk from the Weston Rd entrance to the platform is around 180m (the trains stop at the eastern 2/3rd of the platform but the stairs are at the west end)

A 6264 said:
If it makes anyone feel better (though it may make you feel worse), today's Wikipedia front page "did you know" first headline is about an LRT station in Singapore that opened 20 years after construction completed. (It opened a year ago.)
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They just chose not to open the station as it was in the middle of a forest till development caught up. Oppose to these Crosstown stations that can't open cause who knows what is ML hiding.
 
Trains on Line 1 are still saying next station Eglinton West, and most signs within the original station still display Eglinton West.

The TTC has started installing new maps across the network but I wish they'd make it clear new lines aren't open yet. Also the ride guides handed out at Mount Dennis don't display the name change or Mount Dennis being open
 
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