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[urbanclient]

Ontario Funds Three Transit City Routes

Today, Queen’s Park announced that it would fund three of the Transit City projects — Eglinton, Finch and the Scarborough RT rehab/extension — as well as upgrading of York VIVA BR…

stevemunro.ca

You've missed my point entirely from earlier. I claimed the project was realistically always going to be majority, if not fully funded by upper levels of government, not the city (barring politically untenable municipal tax increases). You linking a post from April 2009 "Ontario Funds Three Transit City Routes" is not incompatible with what I said earlier. Your earlier link had nothing to do with what you claimed: that the project was funded and planned for Pearson to Kennedy (a claim that still doesn't appear to be mutually exclusive to what I said). Before replying it'd be better to actually read carefully, figure out what posts actually mean.

 

[chrisw]

I find this to be interesting messaging over by Eglinton and Allen where the line is entirely underground. I guess they gotta fill those bus shelter ad spots somehow.

They also have the ads at Finch Station, they're all over.

 

[Jonny5]

True. It was always meant to be funded but the provincial government, or the province + the Feds. Failing that, the project would not even begin.

Funding is one thing, project management is another. It could be funded by the province, and the construction still managed by the TTC. My guess it would be completed somewhat sooner than in the hands of Metrolinx, but not dramatically sooner.

That was the whole game at the time. The province was chugging along well pre-2008 with coin to spare, and they basically told all the municipalities "we can fund some big things in the next budget, but you need a plan of what to build, and if you don't have a plan to build something, we can't fund it," so there was a mad race to get something, anything, setup that would be quick and easy to build, essentially the "build something" plan. Then 2008 happened and there was economic panic and then Rob Ford arrives and the rest is well documented history.

 

[cplchanb]

GENTLEMEN.....are we having slow news cycle syndrome that we have to harken back 15 years ago for meaningless discussion?
lets get back on track with figuring out where they are at with the present day RSD (or allegedly still not resumed)

 

[pleaseLRT]

GENTLEMEN.....are we having slow news cycle syndrome that we have to harken back 15 years ago for meaningless discussion?
lets get back on track with figuring out where they are at with the present day RSD (or allegedly still not resumed)

Well I can confirm that trains were running yesterday and are running today. This could be meaningless though, as we haven't heard any updates about RSD since smallspy's post about it still being paused

 

[SkyScraaaper]

I love this thread for updates and insights as to when this line will open. I find the needless debate on personal opinions and pure conjecture (from what I can see they are just that) to be tiresome as well.

GENTLEMEN.....are we having slow news cycle syndrome that we have to harken back 15 years ago for meaningless discussion?
lets get back on track with figuring out where they are at with the present day RSD (or allegedly still not resumed)

 

[UntitledCyclist]

They also have the ads at Finch Station, they're all over.

Is that one specific for Line 6? Kind of wild given the line stops 6 km west of Yonge.

I guess this all stems from that one unfortunate incident with the pedestrian on Eglinton East a while back. I hope they are ok!

 

[GenerationLee]

I started noticing those ads last week in my area, near the current Eglinton station...I thought it was patently absurd to have them there as the nearest surface track for the LRT is two miles away, but I digress.
I initially thought this was a generic ad about railway safety, until I saw another ad nearby...and the smallish graphic for the crosstown. Not a great piece of graphic design, but for Mwtrolinx, its more of the same.
Anyways, I've not seen anything different on the digital screens outside a few stations.

 

[smallspy]

And why have they not been able to build up to the amount of service needed to resume the RSD?

They are still experiencing problems with the signal system, which are related to the in-yard accident from a couple of weeks ago.

Because of this, trains are not able to run at full speed in the tunnels, and the headways need to be kept longer than they would otherwise be. This has led to long backups of trains entering the terminals, and made it difficult to insert additional trains into the system.

Dan

 

[MisterF]

Zoning is what determines density in Toronto not Transit.

I feel like there are a lot of misconceptions about what zoning does in forums and urbanist circles. Zoning is just an implementation tool. It's put in place to implement policy and development approvals by either City Council or the OLT. And it's routinely amended after development applications are submitted.

Density is determined by provincial and city policy, Council and OLT decisions, and market forces. Not zoning.

 

[TwoWheelPoli]

Given RSD started on October 7 and there was a one week pause, that could mean the RSD phase could be done as early as this Friday if the test didn't have to reset from the pause. Hope something gets announced about the Crosstown's RSD soon to confirm where things stand.

 

[Richard White]

Given RSD started on October 7 and there was a one week pause, that could mean the RSD phase could be done as early as this Friday if the test didn't have to reset from the pause. Hope something gets announced about the Crosstown's RSD soon to confirm where things stand.

Given what Dan mentioned above about the signals I would surmise it is delayed pending a resolution.

 

[pleaseLRT]

They are still experiencing problems with the signal system, which are related to the in-yard accident from a couple of weeks ago.

Because of this, trains are not able to run at full speed in the tunnels, and the headways need to be kept longer than they would otherwise be. This has led to long backups of trains entering the terminals, and made it difficult to insert additional trains into the system.

Dan

This late in the game and it still takes weeks to resolve signal system problems. Guess that's what RSD is for, but wow

Opening by the Dec 21 board period seems hopeless then; no way this opens by EOY. Absolutely pathetic job all around

 

[cplchanb]

They are still experiencing problems with the signal system, which are related to the in-yard accident from a couple of weeks ago.

Because of this, trains are not able to run at full speed in the tunnels, and the headways need to be kept longer than they would otherwise be. This has led to long backups of trains entering the terminals, and made it difficult to insert additional trains into the system.

Dan

what on earth happened that this issue would suddenly pop up after months of normal testing? did they stumble on a bug? besides it was already confirmed to be mainly driver error. considering the huge implications politically and financially, why are they striving for NASA levels of perfection?

 

[TOtramz]

I wonder what all the train testing currently going on is for if there is a signal issue holding everything back?
Perhaps they want to make sure the operators don't get rusty.....

Or maybe RSD is still technically on even if at a reduced capacity, since you only need 20 days of no bad things happening.