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Thaboss said:
Also, as a boardmember what authority can they exercise in matters of transparency ?
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They could ask questions in public sessions. The only time I recall this happening in public discussions was the highly important topic of stations names on Line 5.

These compliant board members are part of the problem. Presumably they fear risking their stipend if they make public comments.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
With the Eglinton LRT Line 5 extension into Etobicoke (from Mt. Dennis to Renforth), possible Pearson Airport Transit Hub Extension for Line 5, and the Eglinton East LRT Line 7 (from Kennedy Station to Malvern Town Centre), we should expect increases in ridership for Line 5 overall.
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If they don't extend it to Pearson Airport I'm gonna crash out
 
Thaboss said:
It's pretty obvious that eglinton or finch will make it to the airport. However, the airport authority is one slow moving org. So I wouldn't expect any real movment on this for a very very long time.
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The TTC has been promising rapid transit to the airport since the 1970s. They even put a bus route from Kipling station to the airport on the subway route map above the doors on the trains, as though to pretend there is a subway going there. I suspect Toronto is hoping the people who run the airport will put up a large wad of cash to make it happen, but after all this time, it's still on the wish list for the future.
 
A 6264 said:
The TTC has been promising rapid transit to the airport since the 1970s. They even put a bus route from Kipling station to the airport on the subway route map above the doors on the trains, as though to pretend there is a subway going there. I suspect Toronto is hoping the people who run the airport will put up a large wad of cash to make it happen, but after all this time, it's still on the wish list for the future.
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Hell, I unless I'm wrong the inaccessible "platform" on the north side of Kipling Station was originally designed for a streetcar/LRT that would run to the airport.
 
A 6264 said:
The TTC has been promising rapid transit to the airport since the 1970s. They even put a bus route from Kipling station to the airport on the subway route map above the doors on the trains, as though to pretend there is a subway going there. I suspect Toronto is hoping the people who run the airport will put up a large wad of cash to make it happen, but after all this time, it's still on the wish list for the future.
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Urban Toronto has had a thread on the Pearson Transit Hub at https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-pearson-transit-hub-m-s-gtaa.21541/ since 2015. Also a Eglinton Line 5 Crosstown West Extension Airport Segment thread at https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/eglinton-line-5-crosstown-west-extension-airport-segment.34550/ since 2022.
 
zang said:
Hell, I unless I'm wrong the inaccessible "platform" on the north side of Kipling Station was originally designed for a streetcar/LRT that would run to the airport.
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The LRT platform is on the south side of the bus terminal, and no - it was to provide an LRT to northern Etobicoke via Kipling and/or the various hydro corridors.

Dan
 
smallspy said:
The LRT platform is on the south side of the bus terminal, and no - it was to provide an LRT to northern Etobicoke via Kipling and/or the various hydro corridors.

Dan
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Sorry, yes, south side. But according to Transit Toronto, the proposed line was to extend to the airport.


"To serve the lower-density suburbs with less expensive rapid transit, the TTC had proposed building high-speed streetcar lines on private rights-of-way fanning out from the terminals of the subway line. Planning for such a system got very far on the SCARBOROUGH RT before the provincial government intervened and convinced the TTC and Metropolitan Toronto to switch the project to the experimental ICTS technology it was building.

A similar high-speed streetcar line was planned to extend from Kipling station, possibly running west and then north along Highway 427 to connect the subway to Pearson Airport. This proposal was taken seriously enough that the architects of Kipling Station built a platform to serve such a line into the station itself. On the bus terminal level, across from the bus roadway, a platform and trench seen today are the only evidence that such a line was under serious consideration. However, beyond this measure, the line never moved past the proposal phase, and as the SCARBOROUGH RT proved to be more expensive than originally hoped for, the Etobicoke RT proposal was quietly dropped."
 
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A 6264 said:
The TTC has been promising rapid transit to the airport since the 1970s. They even put a bus route from Kipling station to the airport on the subway route map above the doors on the trains, as though to pretend there is a subway going there. I suspect Toronto is hoping the people who run the airport will put up a large wad of cash to make it happen, but after all this time, it's still on the wish list for the future.
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To be fair, we have rapid transit to the airport. It's not the TTC but it does exist.
 
MisterF said:
To be fair, we have rapid transit to the airport. It's not the TTC but it does exist.
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Yeah, though it's downtown-centric. Honestly, even though buses are slow, you're probably still likely to get to the airport faster from almost any other part of the city by bus than by getting down to Union and taking the Blue22UP Express, negating the "rapid" aspect of it.
 
zang said:
Yeah, though it's downtown-centric. Honestly, even though buses are slow, you're probably still likely to get to the airport faster from almost any other part of the city by bus than by getting down to Union and taking the Blue22UP Express, negating the "rapid" aspect of it.
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It has stops at Weston, Bloor and (soon) Mount Dennis (interchanges with Lines 2 and 5), so it's not entirely downtown-centric. I don't live downtown but the UP Express is the best way for me to get to Pearson.

I'm not saying that other lines shouldn't be built to the airport. Multiple options are a good thing after all. I'm just saying that talking about rapid transit to Pearson like it doesn't already exist is disingenuous.
 
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