crs1026
Superstar
From the Toronto Fire Incident page. Don't know the details, but this ain't Line 1 territory.
- Paul
- Paul
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johntauren
Active Member
That's also nowhere near the underground section. Roughly halfway between the DVP and Vic Park, and 1.5km west of the previous incident. And there isn't like a pedestrian passage underground (sometimes called subway) around either.
TOtramz
Active Member
If the fire department is responding, it doesn't automatically mean there was a fire right? It would be really bad if now line 5 had a fire a few months after finch LRT did.
edit: https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/arti...rt-train-involved-in-collision-in-north-york/
It was a crash
Thaboss
Active Member
Oh boy...and so it begins..
I don't even know what to say or think about this anymore..
TOtramz
Active Member
Based on the images from the latest incident, it doesn't seem like the LRV was damaged in any significant way.
However, do you think there is a realistic chance that serious accidents on the surface section occur so frequently that there are too many vehicles under repair to operate revenue service?
However, do you think there is a realistic chance that serious accidents on the surface section occur so frequently that there are too many vehicles under repair to operate revenue service?
Jago88
Active Member
FFS
Selfishly I just want the UP and GO trains stopping at Mount Dennis so want Line 5 opened as quickly as possible but this stuff doesnt bode well
Selfishly I just want the UP and GO trains stopping at Mount Dennis so want Line 5 opened as quickly as possible but this stuff doesnt bode well
T3G
Senior Member
As realistic of a chance as this happening on the existing streetcar or bus fleet. That is to say, none.
Spare rates are a thing for a reason.
goodcitywhenfinished
Active Member
Would it be prohibitively expensive to put crossing gates at every left turn lane?
Northern Light
Superstar
The cost varies widely, the most obvious impact is the size of the intersection (length of any gates), whether you install dedicated rail warning signals (the norm), but also the style of gates and other factors can contribute.
The range is generally stated as $200,000-$1,000,000.
For a larger intersection like Eglinton, I wouldn't presume a penny under 500k per, and it could be the max.
So...what, something like 15 intersections in the east end? Up to 15M
I would not consider that prohibitive.
The barrier, pun intended, will be the impacts on signal timing, and transit priority.
If the gates don't come down ahead of the trains and hold until they clear the intersections, it will cause substantial delays to the TTC; but if they do, it will mean giving Eglinton more green time at the expense of cross streets.
Where trains (going opposite ways) don't cross the intersection at the same time, (which would be most of the time), the time impacts on traffic could be substantial.
micheal_can
Senior Member
What about spike strips?
Actually, what would be great is to have the police sitting near each intersection on a rotating basis for the time it is in testing mode and start ticketing drivers that want to ignore the LRVs. By the time it opens, the drivers will know it is running.
Actually, what would be great is to have the police sitting near each intersection on a rotating basis for the time it is in testing mode and start ticketing drivers that want to ignore the LRVs. By the time it opens, the drivers will know it is running.
Aplus23
Active Member
What go line is that station on
nfitz
Superstar
Kitchener - between Weston and Bloor. They've also built a new UP platform there, and I think the current plan is that all UP trains will stop here in addition to the two other stops.
mburrrrr
Senior Member
It looks like the paint was scratched on 6273. (New or old scratch?) Picture taken at 4:47 pm yesterday. I’m not sure what happened. There is only one legal turn/crossing at this intersection. NB Credit Union to WB Eglinton.
Picture looking south from Swift Dr.
nfitz
Superstar
That seems to be what the Toronto Fire 7-vehicle response was about. But it is a bit odd for a relatively minor collision. Perhaps 9-1-1 didn't fully understand what had happened. Perhaps someone said there was a collision between a subway train and a car ... Better safe than sorry.
Toronto Fire is often the first responder for medical emergencies, as they have a lot of excess capacity at times (for good reason!), so dealing with smaller emergency calls is a good use of their time. And they can often get their quicker than paramedics, and have resuscitation gear, etc., until the person can be transported. And there's a level of physical strength that can be useful in a medical emergency as well, which isn't as common with paramedics. I've seen paramedics arrive shortly after Toronto Fire for a strictly medical emergency before, and Toronto Fire left once the patient was being prepped for transport.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
They may have to toll the LRV to the nearest Collision Reporting Centre.
After all, a light rail vehicle is a "vehicle" under the MTO regulations, like streetcars were since 1990. Before 1990 regulation change, it would be considered a "street railway", and as a "railway", it would not only have the right-of-way and the other vehicle would automatically be at fault,
But seriously, the police would have to come to the scene, since the LRV cannot go to the Collision Reporting Centre.