Deadpool X
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One bungled project doesn't mean another bungled project. Yonge subway was a replacement for Yonge streetcar and it turned out fine.
Toronto Eglinton Line 5 Crosstown West Extension | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx
- Thread starter W. K. Lis
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Sunnyside
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And this is likely why the long term vision is to convert to light metro, facilitating long-distance and short distance trips. Line 5-style LRT won’t cut it.
SaugeenJunction
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Station contracts haven’t even started the tendering process yet!
drum118
Superstar
"Attention riders" Cars 1/2/3 will be stopping at station 1 4 7 10..... Cars 2/3/4 will be stopping at 2 5 8 11.....Cars 4/5/6 will be stopping 3 6 9 12..... Please make sure you are in the right car for your stop as we are running 6 car trains that will only fit a 3 car platform.
W. K. Lis
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5 car trains, since a light rail car is longer than a heavy rail car.
fanoftoronto
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Are the Crosstown stations 3 LRT car lengths long? I thought they had cut that down to 2 car lengths fairly early in the construction process.
W. K. Lis
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The stations should have false walls, to allow for 3 car trains. Without the false walls, there would be room for 5 LRT car trains. The surface stops have an allowance to 5 car trains. However, the initial opening (allegedly) will likely be for 2 car trains with 3 car trains for crowding situations.
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Steve X
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The walls are staying to keep the ventilation and electrical rooms hidden from the public. It will be 3 car trains max, which is the length of the current Sheppard subway.
W. K. Lis
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The station BOXES for Line 4 Sheppard East are the same length as for Line 1 & Line 2. They have temporary walls to shorten the boxes for 4 car trains. They can remove the walls for 6 car trains, in the future. Likely when Line 4 is extended. See thread about possible Line 4 extension.
Copied and pasted from this link, dated 2019.
From link.
3.1 Design Principles 3.2 Operations Plan - Crosstown
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Voltz
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That's outdated, from when it was a TTC project, I haven't seen anything since Metrolinx became involved that there are any services area beyond the platforms, and they don't seem to be using that typical station layout anyway.The station BOXES for Line 4 Sheppard East are the same length as for Line 1 & Line 2. They have temporary walls to shorten the boxes for 4 car trains. They can remove the walls for 6 car trains, in the future. Likely when Line 4 is extended. See thread about possible Line 4 extension.
Copied and pasted from this link, dated 2019.
From link.
3.1 Design Principles 3.2 Operations Plan - Crosstown
fanoftoronto
Active Member
I agree, I believe the entire station box itself is only 90m.
I checked the distance between the headwalls for the West Extension and it comes out to around 90 to 100m. Maybe there was originally an idea for 150m long station boxes but those are our the window. Regardless, 3-car trains are plenty for Eglinton if the estimated usage is true.
We just have to wait another year for the Crosstown to open to see if that's true!
Voltz
Senior Member
I like your optimism!
Although I'm sure that a route that is handled by mixed traffic buses won't suddenly overwhelm an underground line.
Woodbridge_Heights
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Mississauga will never give up it's parking lots.
just east of the creek
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Working in the area I tend to agree. Office intensification - Yes. Significant parking areas— yes. The draw of the nearby major highways and other access routes is a large draw. I would be curious to see the relevant busway numbers as I am not sure it has had much effect in the big picture, although the access has found some favour.
drum118
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Most of the Transitways stations parking lots are under hydro line or in an utilities corridor where nothing else can be used for the areas there other than parks and gardens.
There are a few stations that will not support anything in the first place.
As long as there is land to build employment business, you will see surface parking lots outside the city core that is cheap to do so, You have a few business in the city core with parking decks.
Mississauga is car city as there is a lack of good transit, not easy to get around using it, how it lack connection from places around it with low density not able to support good transit in the first place. Lack of a good road systems doesn't help anyone.
A large percentage of homes have 3-7 cars including most of city councilors.
That is why Mississauga is known as car city since cars out number residential units.
The transitway can be upgraded to a point in support LRT, except between Central Parkway and Ern Mills station to allow Line 5 to get to the city core today.
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