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Steve X said:
And height restriction. Certainly won't attract high rise developers
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Likely, will not be like...
Congonhas Airport, Sao Paulo, Brazil

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Background:
Most major cities have an airport, but rarely are they built just 5 miles (8 km) from the city center, especially in metropolises like Sao Paulo. Congonhas' close proximity to downtown can be attributed in part to the fact that it was completed in 1936, with the city experiencing rapid development in the following decades.

Why It's Unique:
While having an airport only 5 miles (8 km) from the city center may be a convenience for commuters, it places a strain on both pilots and air traffic control crews. "It becomes a challenge in terms of safety to just get the plane in there," Schreckengast says. "Then you throw on noise restrictions and these terribly awkward arrival and departure routes that are needed to minimize your noise-print and it becomes quite challenging for pilots." Fortunately, Sao Paulo's many high-rise buildings are far enough away from the airport that they aren't an immediate obstacle for pilots landing or taking off.
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Look at the other airports in the link.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
Hmm, I question the desirability of this location, even with transit. Would offices want to be located to close to a noisy airport?
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Depends on the business. Those involving significant business travel would be interested; large consulting firms, regional sales office, etc.

It wouldn't be an HQ, but a place for the more mobile staff to work between trips.
 
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rbt said:
Depends on the business. Those involving significant business travel would be interested; large consulting firms, regional sales office, etc.

It wouldn't be an HQ, but a place for the more mobile staff to check-in work between trips.
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You could have lots of 10 storey office buildings around the airport. There's already quite a bit of office space near there, it is one of the major nodes in the city.
 
TorPronto said:
Depends where the offices are located. If they aren't near the flight paths, it shouldn't be so noisy. Also, sound proofing would help with keeping the airplane noise in mind.
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Took a couple images from the current Master Plan (2017). Which pieces survive to the next plan are unknown.


Here you can see where Eglinton West LRT slides into play:
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Area 6A/6B are lands they are interested in redeveloping. 6A was the terminal expansion, 6B was commercial use.
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rbt said:
That somewhat defeats the primary purpose of Union West, which is not really bringing passengers to the airport. Pearson wants to build several million sqft of office space on land they own and collect revenue through it in an effort to reduce airport fees. Transit is primarily to ensure this office space is attractive; Harbour East is a competitor to the Union West concept.

Having strong transit connectivity at the airport is a nice side-effect but not something they'll volunteer to fund without strong office demand.
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I have to agree, rail direct to the terminals is probably better no matter what. Having to take a crappy people mover for the last leg sucks. The US just changed their rules regarding bringing trains directly to the airport and they are cheering it, and we want to move in the direction of more people movers . . . .
 
superelevation said:
I have to agree, rail direct to the terminals is probably better no matter what. Having to take a crappy people mover for the last leg sucks. The US just changed their rules regarding bringing trains directly to the airport and they are cheering it, and we want to move in the direction of more people movers . . . .
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In fact you'd have to WALK to the terminals considering that in the Transit Hub plan, the LINK train would also be removed. Unless a replacement for the LINK Train is built to serve the hub.
 
Coolstar said:
In fact you'd have to WALK to the terminals considering that in the Transit Hub plan, the LINK train would also be removed. Unless a replacement for the LINK Train is built to serve the hub.
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I'd think there be something - be it moving sidewalks heading in 2-3 directions, or a Heathrow 5ish people-mover underground.
 
I wonder what will happen to the upx once egwlrt is built to the airport, will they keep it or repurpose it for the finch west lrt?
nfitz said:
It is, but it's no where near enough capacity to handle a significant increase in ridership. And it's already at the limit of it's ultimate capacity.
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Why not make it use the same technology srt uses?
 
CaskoChan said:
I wonder what will happen to the upx once egwlrt is built to the airport, will they keep it or repurpose it for the finch west lrt?

Why not make it use the same technology srt uses?
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The UPX will still be the only link from downtown to person and the fastest. There is absolutely no reason for them to repurpose it.
 
KhalilHeron said:
The UPX will still be the only link from downtown to person and the fastest. There is absolutely no reason for them to repurpose it.
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What about the plan to convert the line to RER standards? This would involve the use of the same GO EMU's likely to be used across the GO Network. The EMUs can operate on the rest of the GO Network.

www.thestar.com

Metrolinx plans UP Express overhaul but says $80 million bridge won’t be part of it

Metrolinx still studying other proposals that would integrate UP Express service with the rest of GO Transit as part of a major expansion of the regional rail network planned for about 2025.
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