EastYorkTTCFan
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I thopught I saw somewhere that the LRT's for the crosstown would be moved from the depot to a platform for the operators to take over before they are put onto the line autonomously
Toronto Crosstown LRT: Mount Dennis Station and EMSF | ?m | 3s | Metrolinx | IBI Group
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max
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Where would the yard employees park their vehicles if we planted all that grass?
W. K. Lis
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Johnny Au
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November 5, 2021:
Photos of the LRV:
Photos of the LRV:
drum118
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Jan 14/22
Caught Metrolinx 6200 Mu To 6254 Flexity Freedom LRV Looping In Eglinton Maintenance and Storage Facility For Eglinton Crosstown LRT Line (Line 5 Eglinton)
Metrolinx 6272 Flexity Freedom LRV, + Metrolinx 6251 Flexity Freedom LRV + ? Cars were mu to another as a pair
Caught Metrolinx 6200 Mu To 6254 Flexity Freedom LRV Looping In Eglinton Maintenance and Storage Facility For Eglinton Crosstown LRT Line (Line 5 Eglinton)
Metrolinx 6272 Flexity Freedom LRV, + Metrolinx 6251 Flexity Freedom LRV + ? Cars were mu to another as a pair
W. K. Lis
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Near the beginning of the Crosstown LRT project, there were discussions on having the 512 ST. CLAIR being extended to Jane Street and using the proposed Jane LRT and Eglinton LRT tracks to reach the Mt. Dennis EMSF. It was rejected because of the different track gauges between the legacy streetcar network and the transit city network.
Looking elsewhere in the world, they actually are able to use what is called gauntlet track or interlaced tracks. They are an arrangement in which railway tracks run parallel on a single track bed and are interlaced (i.e., overlapped) such that only one pair of rails may be used at a time. Since this requires only slightly more width than a single track, all rails can be carried on the same crossties/sleepers. Trains run on the discrete pair of rails appropriate to their direction, track gauge or loading gauge.
The term gauntlet refers to the expression running the gauntlet, which means running between two confining rows of adversaries.
From link.
Triple gauntlet track at Kaufungen, Germany. Wider mainline trains go down the centre; narrower trams switch either to the left, or right, to be closer to the relevant platform. Beyond the station, the rails return to single track.
Looking elsewhere in the world, they actually are able to use what is called gauntlet track or interlaced tracks. They are an arrangement in which railway tracks run parallel on a single track bed and are interlaced (i.e., overlapped) such that only one pair of rails may be used at a time. Since this requires only slightly more width than a single track, all rails can be carried on the same crossties/sleepers. Trains run on the discrete pair of rails appropriate to their direction, track gauge or loading gauge.
The term gauntlet refers to the expression running the gauntlet, which means running between two confining rows of adversaries.
From link.
Triple gauntlet track at Kaufungen, Germany. Wider mainline trains go down the centre; narrower trams switch either to the left, or right, to be closer to the relevant platform. Beyond the station, the rails return to single track.
EastYorkTTCFan
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The difference between TTC gauge and standard gauge doesn't give enough space for a gauntlet track TTC Gauge is 4 feet 107/8 in or 1,4945 mm whereas standard gauge is 4 feet 81/2 in or 1,435 mm. At the plant in Thubderbay, the tracks are all TTC gauge and they can move go train cars around on them
W. K. Lis
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In the first photo, all the tracks are actually the same gauge. They all join up past the platform. The wider railway trains use the middle tracks, but the narrower trams use the outside tracks to serve the platforms.
EastYorkTTCFan
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What part of not enough space between Standard Gauge and TTC Gauge gauge do you not understand, the difference in between them would leave no room for the wheels of the TTC vechles to use them because of how close they are in gauge. There isn't enough space to use a gauntlet track for them. I also fail to see any reason why we would connect the legacy streetcar network with the LRT network when there aren't even plans to connect the two under construction now.In the first photo, all the tracks are actually the same gauge. They all join up past the platform. The wider railway trains use the middle tracks, but the narrower trams use the outside tracks to serve the platforms.
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Jaye101
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Since the 512 is so removed from the legacy network as is, and it's number of passengers per KM is higher than all but Spadina, perhaps during its next upgrade it should be upgraded to LRT. With a few grade separations at Old Weston GO, Dufferin-Oakwood, Vaughan-Bathust-St Clair West, and Avenue.
EastYorkTTCFan
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The TTC is looking at converting hillcrest into a streetcar storage area as they do all of the heavy mainttaince is done at Leleslie now
SaugeenJunction
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A quick question for the forum. I had thought that the original scope of the Mount Dennis GO station was 2 platforms serving 3 tracks, but the below picture (plus zoomed crop) from Railpictures.ca‘s Jacob Estrin seems to show a third platform being built the the east. This would obviously make sense, but I thought that this work was for a future phase. It looks like all four tracks will be served from day one now? And yes, I know actually finishing the fourth track from Black Creek to Lansdowne is a different project.
Below is an “old render“ with just 2 platforms for reference:
Below is an “old render“ with just 2 platforms for reference:
W. K. Lis
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Gino29
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so does it sit there for six months? or could they open the GO/UPX Platform for revenue service before the LRT is opened?
SaugeenJunction
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Some shots from today. Platforms 1 and 2 for tracks 1, 2, and 3 are pretty much done, with platform 3 for track 4 racing along. You can see the UPX platforms in my last shots.
Bonus CP train passing the station. It’s a pretty tight squeeze between track 4 and the road for the freight trains.
Bonus CP train passing the station. It’s a pretty tight squeeze between track 4 and the road for the freight trains.