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Toronto Crosstown LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

The LRT would likely not run in Mississauga other than the last few hundred metres into the airport stop. It would run along Silver Dart Drive which is inside the city of Toronto.. And the part in Mississauga is on GTAA property so GTAA would be more likely to pay for it than Mississauga.
 
Palma said:
What I find amazing is that the province, and federal gov't will chip in their share for SmartTrack as will Toronto but what about Markham? Why does the province pay on behalf of the other towns the GO goes through but once it gets to Toronto they expect Toronto to put up their share?
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Pre Smarttrack, the Province was clear that Crosstown ended at Mount Dennis and that's as far as they were funding.

Tory extracted further (partial) funding promises for ST, but without calling it a GO service. Nothing compels the Province to fund ST on the same basis as it funds GO. Similarly, if ST ends up looking like a western Crosstown extension, nothing compels the Province to fund it as if it was part of Crosstown all along. They have clearly stated that Mount Dennis is all they can afford just now.

If ST goes to Unionville, or into Mississauga, and the Provincial/Federal contribution doesn't cover the whole cost, it's quite possible that Toronto would ask Mississauga or Markham to contribute. The problem for Toronto is if they say 'no' - which they may well do. Does Tory abandon the whole idea because he's short a little bit of the pot? (Based on miles of track, the Mississauga and Markham share would be a small fraction). I would bet that he wouldn't. The City would make up the difference - under protest - and hope that they could leverage the 'unfairnes' for some other concession or funding.

- Paul
 
Palma said:
Since the Crosstown west would be going into Mississauga should that not mean Mississauga should be paying for the costs as soon as it hits its border? Why would Toronto need to pay for the whole thing? Same thing as SmartTrack going into Marham. What I find amazing is that the province, and federal gov't will chip in their share for SmartTrack as will Toronto but what about Markham? Why does the province pay on behalf of the other towns the GO goes through but once it gets to Toronto they expect Toronto to put up their share?
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I don't think the City of Toronto paid for Crosstown.

AoD
 
As long as SmartTrack, or Crosstown LRT, go a short distance into Markham to Unionville, or to ACC in Mississauga, it will primarily serve Torontonians acessing job clusters there. Obviously, Markham and Mississauga won't pay for those sections. Btw, they do not ask TTC to pay them for the fact that they run their bus routes to Kipling / Islington / Finch / Don Mills subway stations.

Likewise, Mississauga will not pay for any service that just connects Torontonians to the airport.

On the other hand, if the LRT line goes all the way to Square One, it becomes a service primarily for the residents of Mississauga. In that case, it is only fair to expect them to pay the municipal share.
 
cplchanb said:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...e-due-to-hard-ground-metrolinx-says-1.3434769

sigh...here we go again....
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'We want transit, but it can't cost too much!'

Okay, here's an LRT, since you don't have the ridership for a subway anyway.

'But we don't want to have to look at it when we drive!'

Okay, we'll put some of it underground.

'Hey! You're digging a tunnel? Could you not make so much noise? Maybe try to do it without blocking part of the road with equipment?'

...
 
sixrings said:
Thought people only complained when they made streetcars and under ground transit had no issues at all?
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The funny part here is that Sue Ann-Levy is one of those complaining about the noise, and yet she was one of the loudest Ford Subway boosters.
 
Voltz said:
The funny part here is that Sue Ann-Levy is one of those complaining about the noise, and yet she was one of the loudest Ford Subway boosters.
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She is a giant hypocrite, as always. She lives in the neighbourhood because she moved in with her wife ... whom she met while researching a privacy complaint about a TV news report about a parking dispute. Turns out the house had a disabled parking space used by exactly zero disabled people.
 
Noise and vibration is a known and predictable part of an underground transit equation. It's just part of the change. It will not end after construction - I'm sure those Flexities will make some level of rumble when the line goes in service. Will it irrevocably change some peoples' daily lives? Absolutely. Should this stop the line from going ahead? Absolutely not.

Anyone who is surprised just didn't pay attention. Or has never been in a basement on Bloor Street. (The Humber Theatre and the Village Playhouse on Bloor West come to mind).

- Paul
 
they don't know what kind of soil they are going to drill into ahead of time? Maybe not where the boundaries are but surely geological drilling gave them some clue.
 
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