Toronto Crosstown LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[Johnny Au]

Those "shelters" are a joke.

Tell that to the Atlanta Streetcar:

 

[W. K. Lis]

Atlanta Streetcar

Atlanta Streetcars come every 15 minutes, even during the rush hour. See link.

The Crosstown will have headways similar to the subway, every 5 minutes during the non-rush hours.

 

[Steve X]

Atlanta Streetcars come every 15 minutes, even during the rush hour. See link.

The Crosstown will have headways similar to the subway, every 5 minutes during the non-rush hours.

Initially the Crosstown wouldn't run as frequent during non-rush, 6-10min is more likely.

 

[robmausser]

Tell that to the Atlanta Streetcar:

Ah yes, Atlanta, the first city that comes to mind when I think of harsh, cold windy winters.

 

[robmausser]

Those "shelters" are a joke.

At the very least, shelters can be upgraded in the future and changed. While it would be nice to have them right from the get-go, its not like something like a transit line that is routed through the wrong neighbourhood or something.

The things people complain about the Crosstown, the drab grey LRTs, and the shelters, are all things that could be improved in the future.

 

[M II A II R II K]

If Eglinton east gets buried as well the outdoor stretch from Laird to Kennedy would become the whole lines weakest link, and may get buried itself at a later date anyway so those shelters won’t be there for too long.

 

[robmausser]

If Eglinton east gets buried as well the outdoor stretch from Laird to Kennedy would become the whole lines weakest link, and may get buried itself at a later date anyway so those shelters won’t be there for too long.

There is next to 0 chance of Eglinton East getting buried. Its density and use is probably the best suited area in most of Toronto for a "streetcar-style" LRT with many stops close together, whereas Eglinton West is better suited for rapid transit out to points of interest.

The real nail in the coffin is the fact that Eg East will connect to 3 GO stations, which will very soon have rapid electric transit operating every 15 minutes or less.

I really don't see this being buried unless Rob Ford rises from the grave.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

There is next to 0 chance of Eglinton East getting buried. Its density and use is probably the best suited area in most of Toronto for a "streetcar-style" LRT with many stops close together, whereas Eglinton West is better suited for rapid transit out to points of interest.

The real nail in the coffin is the fact that Eg East will connect to 3 GO stations, which will very soon have rapid electric transit operating every 15 minutes or less.

I really don't see this being buried unless Rob Ford rises from the grave.

The presence of the Ontario Line also means that the Eglinton Line east of Yonge will never have the demand required for subway service.

The busiest portions of the Eglinton Line (in terms of peak utilization), and perhaps the portions most deserving of subway service, will be west of Allen Road and east of Kennedy Station.

 

[Coolstar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1272892194899320838

 

[MisterF]

Tell that to the Atlanta Streetcar:

Atlanta? If you set the bar any lower it would be underground.

At the very least, shelters can be upgraded in the future and changed. While it would be nice to have them right from the get-go, its not like something like a transit line that is routed through the wrong neighbourhood or something.

The things people complain about the Crosstown, the drab grey LRTs, and the shelters, are all things that could be improved in the future.

The likelihood of the shelters getting replaced with something more substantial anytime soon is very small. It's not just a question of installing more substantial shelters, because more substantial shelters require more room. What we're getting now is all that will be there for a long time. Proper rapid transit requires proper shelters no matter how frequently trains arrive. Unfortunately the surface part of the Crosstown isn't proper rapid transit.

The presence of the Ontario Line also means that the Eglinton Line east of Yonge will never have the demand required for subway service.

The busiest portions of the Eglinton Line (in terms of peak utilization), and perhaps the portions most deserving of subway service, will be west of Allen Road and east of Kennedy Station.

Good point, as the expanded GO lines will siphon off a lot of ridership that they currently can't, especially people headed downtown. Having said that, you don't need subway level ridership to build medium capacity rapid transit in medium demand corridors.

 

[H4F33Z]

^^ I'm getting deja vu

 

[H4F33Z]

June 17, 2020
What Work is Taking Place?

As part of Eglinton Crosstown LRT project, improvements to streetscape, cycle tracks and utility upgrades will be implemented at certain stations areas and stretches of Eglinton Avenue. The improvements have been designed in coordination with the City of Toronto’s planned Eglinton Connects Streetscape and Cycle Track Design and include street and sidewalk renewal and reconfiguration, sidewalk widening, designated cycle lanes, on-street parking, trees, and street furniture. For more information on the City’s Eglinton Connects Streetscape and Cycle Track Design, visit www.toronto.ca/eglinton.

The new streetscape and cycle track will be implemented continuously between Avenue Road and Holly Street. Construction will take place in phases, beginning with Phase 1 on the north and south sides of Eglinton Avenue from Duplex Avenue to Lascelles Blvd. starting in July 2020. Using traffic barrels, work zones will be erected along Eglinton Avenue. Using excavators, the existing roadway, sidewalk, and any street furniture will be removed. Excavated material will be loaded into dump trucks and hauled to an off-site facility. Once the road and sidewalk have been removed, wet and dry utility works will take place. Concrete and asphalt will be used to construct the new streetscape and cycle track.

Phase 1 will take approximately six (6) months to complete. Crews will work Monday through Saturday from 7:00 a.m. – 7:00 p.m. with overnight work as required. Eglinton Avenue streetscape and cycle track construction between Avenue Road and Lascelles Blvd. and in other areas within the Eglinton Crosstown LRT project scope will continue through 2021. Construction notices will be issued in advance of each phase of work.

If anyone still hasn't got the memo. Metrolinx will only build the cycle tracks in front of every station area, and a stretch from Lascelelles to Holly (Yonge-Eglinton area), and Keele to Black Creek. The city will eventually construct the infill gaps, but currently haven't secured the full-funding needed to do so, so it will be done after the LRT is running.

Metrolinx will paint the surface section bike lanes before the LRT is running from Brentcliffe to Victoria Park with a buffer and no buffer till kennedy. Once again, Scarbrough gets the short end of the stick.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

If you look at other LRT systems around the world most of them have the same type of shelters. I found some videos on YouTube of the one in Edinbourgh Scotland and even for stops outside of the city they only have a small shelter like the ones on the crosstown line too.

 

[hw621]

If you look at other LRT systems around the world most of them have the same type of shelters. I found some videos on YouTube of the one in Edinbourgh Scotland and even for stops outside of the city they only have a small shelter like the ones on the crosstown line too.

Do they have brutal winters too?

 

[rbt]

Do they have brutal winters too?

I think Edinburgh counts. 2°C, a light rain, and a 20km/h winds is one of the nicer winter days. Toronto probably wins for worst week of the year, but Edinburgh beats Toronto for least pleasant on-average season.