Toronto CIBC SQUARE | 241.39m | 50s | Hines | WilkinsonEyre

[Vanalla]

Why on earth would you want buses pulling out on to the Gardiner instead of Lake Shore?

If there is appropriate room to merge for the buses, that could theoretically shave 10-15 minutes off of the travel time for hundreds of GO buses and by extrapolation tens of thousands of commuter journeys.

roughly 38 bus lines leaving an average of 60 times per day is 2,280 bus journeys leaving Union Station daily. if each bus carries an average of 27 people then that is 61,560 individual trips per year totalling 923,400 minutes lost (take THAT, Seasons of Love!). That's 15,390 hours, or 641.25 days, or 91.6 weeks, or 1.76 years. Those numbers are all from GO's website btw.

Just not cost practical most likely. It's possible - look at what San Fransisco just completed.. Just very, very expensive.

True, it would be a mammoth undertaking that Ivanhoe Cambridge likely has little interest in accomplishing with their partnership with Metrolinx on that portion of the development...

The real anachronism is the Gardiner itself. Why would you want to expend massive capital connecting to something that will hopefully be demo'd within our lifetimes (good old Toronto time frame there)?

Also true. Hopefully we see the Gardiner become a high line park a la New York's, but if destruction of the Gardiner is still decades out then there might be a feasibility team out there that could make the case for the benefits of direct access over the next generation or so...

 

[Michael62]

More of Everything but Just the Same, Friday

Westside Story:

A closer look at the multi-level retail shop's steel skeleton.

Eastside Story:

A closer look at the northeast corner

And finally, a last look at the southeast corner ramps before they're covered up

 

[Michael62]

If there is appropriate room to merge for the buses, that could theoretically shave 10-15 minutes off of the travel time for hundreds of GO buses and by extrapolation tens of thousands of commuter journeys.

roughly 38 bus lines leaving an average of 60 times per day is 2,280 bus journeys leaving Union Station daily. if each bus carries an average of 27 people then that is 61,560 individual trips per year totaling 923,400 minutes lost (take THAT, Seasons of Love!). That's 15,390 hours, or 641.25 days, or 91.6 weeks, or 1.76 years. Those numbers are all from GO's website btw.


True, it would be a mammoth undertaking that Ivanhoe Cambridge likely has little interest in accomplishing with their partnership with Metrolinx on that portion of the development...


Also true. Hopefully, we see the Gardiner become a high line park a la New York's, but if destruction of the Gardiner is still decades out then there might be a feasibility team out there that could make the case for the benefits of direct access over the next generation or so...

Can you imagine the number of idiot drivers that would attempt to do a 'kiss and ride' drop-off at the Bus Terminal if there was an access ramp? Gosh we can't keep people out of the streetcar tunnels, how could you possibly keep people from driving into the depot ??

 

[Vanalla]

Can you imagine the number of idiot drivers that would attempt to do a 'kiss and ride' drop-off at the Bus Terminal if there was an access ramp? Gosh we can't keep people out of the streetcar tunnels, how could you possibly keep people from driving into the depot ??

Gate with a transponder mounted to the bus could work?

But then again, why we haven't already done that with the streetcar tunnels I'll never know...

 

[someMidTowner]

More of Everything but Just the Same, Friday

Westside Story:

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A closer look at the multi-level retail shop's steel skeleton.

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Eastside Story:

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A closer look at the northeast corner

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And finally, a last look at the southeast corner ramps before they're covered up

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A five-shot panorama using the latest @Michael62 update!

 

[interchange42]

Gate with a transponder mounted to the bus could work?

But then again, why we haven't already done that with the streetcar tunnels I'll never know...

It's not just $$$$$ and gates, there's no space for the deceleration and acceleration lanes that would be required.

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[Capslock]

It's not just $$$$$ and gates, there's no space for the deceleration and acceleration lanes that would be required.

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Or for the amount of ramp to achieve the change in level to get up to the Gardiner, and presumably only the westbound side at that.

But apart from aaaaallll that.....

 

[Miscreant]

The complexity of this site is amazing. Love the amount of detail. Logistics must be incredible.

 

[Msleylar]

Looking south from Brookfield Place yesterday afternoon.

 

[Michael62]

Forest of Steel

Of note, they are generally working 20 hour days, 5 am through 1 am the next morning. Steel assembly is very quiet

Southwest retail taking shape

Steel trusses forming level#3 mechanical floor

 

[Downtown Toronto]

May 17 2019: Fom the Jarvis exit in the Gardiner

 

[Contra]

Tantalizingly close to some cladding. I figure once the steel portions of the retail/podium are are done they'll start with the glass.

 

[ptbotmpfn]

From Wednesday May 16 (yesterday)

oop whatever I guess I forgot to edit the last picture.

 

[Michael62]

Finally a Sunny Friday, Friday

Westside Story:

TOP

Middle

Bottom

Eastside Story

A Closer Look at:

1) Northeast crash wall work in progress

2) Southeast forming work to complete level#3 floor

3) Central steel truss formwork in progress

4) Southwest retail steel post and beam construction and metal deck flooring assembly

 

[someMidTowner]

Finally a Sunny Friday, Friday

Westside Story:

TOP

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Middle

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Bottom

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Eastside Story

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A Closer Look at:

1) Northeast crash wall work in progress

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2) Southeast forming work to complete level#3 floor

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3) Central steel truss formwork in progress

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4) Southwest retail steel post and beam construction and metal deck flooring assembly

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@Michael62 update stitched!