Toronto Atria Condos (Alto, Trio, Parfait, Parkside) | 137.15m | 43s | Tridel | Turner Fleischer

Update:

The application has been appealed by Dorsay Investments Limited to the OMB. The northernmost building is proposed at 26-storey and the two southern buildings are proposed at 38-storeys with a total of 914 units. Retail and restaurant useds will fron onto Sheppard Ave.

The land's are currently designated an employment area under the O.P. and Z/BLs Dorsay wants the site to be designated mixed use and also currently owns three office buildings just south of the development site. The site in question is currently a parking lot. The applicant claims the proposal fits into the city's O.P. and avenues plan. The city denied the application citing the PPS and growth plan as provincial documents supporting the preservation of employment lands. Essentiall the city views the application as a conversion and the applicant views the proposal as an attempt to implement the vision for the avenues.

The OMB recently held the first pre-hearing conference and the city and applicant agreed to approach the appeals in phases over a three-week hearing in October.
 
Great update Mike ... thx

It beats me how Dorsay can justify a residential proposal in an Employment District considering given there are specific prohibition for employment lands conversion in the OP. I suppose that's why the developer's planning consultant are paid so well, haha your money at work !! (FYI future purchasers).

This will be a OMB fight worthwhile following~
 
26/38/38 storey towers and only 914 units? They could be very slim. Again, though, we see shorter buildings fronting Sheppard and taller ones behind them.

Unlike other employment lands, the Consumers office park has loads of room for future buildings...there's gotta be surface parking for over 10,000 cars right now. Heron's Hill has already opened the precedence door for this employment district, so I doubt the OMB will oppose this project on those grounds.
 
In my idealistic planning department, I have the "avenues" lined with 10 story retail/office/lofts, with a little mews/alley way behind, then a set of highrises--20-40 story buildings. Across another narrow street, sets of urban streetwall devoted to office/industrial uses--2-6 stories high. Is there something challenging about this simple concept that can't be implemented? And down the centre of the avenue? LRT+narrow strip of parkland.
 
Novae Res Urbis

I'm very suprised that this application got approved by the OMB when it is CLEARLY employment lands conversion for residential uses ... sometimes I really don't know what OMB Board Members are thinking ~ :rolleyes:

This is clearly an employment area with the Atria complex already 3/4 built ... this last parcel would logically represent the final 1/4 of the site that should have been filled in with another office tower (when the demand arises)

Anyhow ... 3 condo by Dorsay coming soon here ! (not sure if they usually partner with Tridel??)
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EMPLOYMENT LANDS DEBATE - Sheppard East towers approved
September 4, 2009

Late last week the Ontario Municipal Board approved re-designation of a North York site in a case that the city considered to be about conversion of employment lands and the developer considered it to be about a different use on a site next to an employment district.

In the August 28 decision, board members Karlene Hussey and Joe Wong agreed with Dorsay Investments Limited and 1666500 Ontario Inc. that a site at 2205 Sheppard Avenue East could be developed with residential rather than employment uses. The decision relates to the first phase of the hearing, dealing with broader policy issues surrounding the development plans. Phase two will address more specific issues such as zoning and site plan details.

The central issue in the first phase of the hearing was whether or not the site, which is located on an avenue in the official plan’s urban structure map, is subject to the avenue policies contained in the official plan.

The site is part of the Atria complex, a nearly 8-hectare area that includes three-existing office buildings. The developer has proposed to build several residential towers, with a total of 914 units, on top of a podium that will include 3,285-sq.m. of retail and commercial space on the remaining portion of the Atria lands. This portion of the area has been vacant for decades.

“It’s an exceptionally good location for intense redevelopment and there are no nearby sensitive uses or low-density residents who will complain or be negatively impacted,†said lawyer Jeff Davies, who along with Mark Flowers (Davies Howe), represented Dorsay and 1666500 Ontario in the case.

However, the city sought to reserve the site for employment uses, arguing that all lands currently designated for employment uses are required to meet job growth projections for the next twenty years. City staff said the site, while located on a designated avenue, is part of the Consumers Road Employment District and warrants the protections afforded to employment areas in the provincial growth plan.

It was the city’s assertion that the depiction of the avenue on the urban structure map does not include defined boundaries. It is for schematic purposes and does not constitute a land use designation. The site in question is designated as an employment area and is located adjacent to an employment district. City staff ’s position was that its designation prevents conversion of the site for residential uses.

The developer noted that the official plan contains no policies saying that sites on an avenue adjacent to an employment district are to be subject to the policies of the employment district designation.

Both sides in the case noted there are better locations in the city for the uses preferred by the other.

“We didn’t think it was a very good location for employment uses. There are several office nodes in the city which presently have fantastic rapid transit service, which have the potential for substantial additional office development,†Davies said. “It looks nice, there are four buildings there. [But] the site’s been vacant for over 20 years so if it was a good office site, one would think that somebody would have come to it already.â€

“It was the city’s position that these lands should be protected as part of the overall supply of employment land within the city,†said Bruce Ketcheson (Ritchie Ketcheson), who represented the city along with Andrew Biggart (Ritchie Ketcheson) and Rob Balfour. “As a general matter, undoubtedly within a supply of land you’re going to have certain lands that will be more or less attractive for employment purposes and the city’s position in this case was that these lands were valuable and should be retained for employment use.â€

In its decision, the OMB concluded that 2205 Sheppard Avenue East is designated an employment area, but since it is adjacent to and not within the neighbouring employment district, it is not afforded the protections that the official plan sets out for such lands.

“The board finds that the proposal will achieve an efficient use of the…land, in keeping with the city’s and the province’s objectives,†the board states in its conclusion.

The city is still considering whether or not it will request a rehearing, appeal the board’s decision, or simply await the second phase of the hearing.
 
This is a pretty important decision. It states that for purposes of employment lands conversion under Places to Grow, there are 2 levels of protection. To be prevented from conversion, employment designated lands must also be in an designated employment district (at least in Toronto).
 
Is this located at the former Don Howson car dealership since i noticed they have been relocated?
 
Well, if the city is really concerned about stimulating employment in the Consumers area, maybe they should be doing more than just opposing condos and waiting for Godot Enterprises to show up and build a skyscraper here. If Consumers has room for about 100 acres of surface parking, there's plenty of room for some more jobs...it would take decades to fill Consumers with condos even if Tridel bought every site and was given permission to go nuts. Encouraging parking structures would free up tons of land, while a subway extension would lessen the impact of thousands of new cars pouring onto Sheppard & VP at 5pm (and probably raise land values up enough to make parking structures more worthwhile).
 
any progress with this site?

does anyone know what the Notice board says? Is there a meeting anytime soon? or has it already happened? I drove by but couldn't make a stop on Sheppard to have a quick read.
 
I understand that this proposal got approved by the Ontario Municipal Board ... see post #25
 
Update:

The Ontario Divisional Court upheld the OMB decision (rendered in August 2009) regarding the Dorsay Investments proposal that the city attempted to protect for employment uses. The approved plans for 2205 Sheppard Ave East include 914 residential units and 3,285 square meters of retail and commercial space. The city suggested that the OMB had made an error in law regarding the growth plan and employment land conversions, but the Ontario Divisional Court dismissed the city's appeal request. The city was also ordered to pay costs to Dorsay Investments.
 
This is a pretty interesting decision. It said that there simply being an employment area doesn't qualify it for the protection from conversion that being in an employment district affords.
 
Latest findings ... Turner Fleischer Architects Inc. (TFAI) is working on this project, being a Dorsay/Tridel joint venture ... plans call for a new road connection extending westerly from the subject property to connect with Consumers Road thereby providing additional road connections from the site ... 3 towers continue to be proposed, with the northern most tower rising from a podium buidling running the length of the Sheppard frontage ... plan refinements continue underway

This proposal was reviewed by the Design Review Panel on November 17 2010:
http://www.toronto.ca/planning/pdf/design_review/drp_meeting_minutes_nov17_2010.pdf
 

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