Toronto Arbo | ?m | 20s | CLC

Arbo got a mention in the 2024 Federal Budget as a property that will see rapid development.

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Shocking that they are sticking with a (barely altered) proposal from three years ago, while seemingly every other major proposal has been bumped up in density one, two, three etc times since then. Just a complacent, uninterested crown corporation content to do not much of anything. Between the Olympic Village, the Portlands and this chunk of Downsview the various governing bodies of Toronto seem to be the most incompetent developer in the city.
 
jmi22 said:
Shocking that they are sticking with a (barely altered) proposal from three years ago, while seemingly every other major proposal has been bumped up in density one, two, three etc times since then. Just a complacent, uninterested crown corporation content to do not much of anything. Between the Olympic Village, the Portlands and this chunk of Downsview the various governing bodies of Toronto seem to be the most incompetent developer in the city.
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I think you're very premature in drawing that conclusion.

There are no actual buildings moving forward just yet. Though there will be soon.

I think Canada Lands has been excellent here and in the overall Downsview Plan thus far.

But let's see how execution roles out.
 
@DSC drew my attention to this:

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@HousingNowTO will wish to make note.

Taken from: https://www.clc-sic.ca/enabling-new-housing

Edit to add:

This is one of 3 parcels at 1350 Sheppard West that is currently out for proposals, but two others are open for feedback:

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Red is out for proposals, green is open for feedback.
 
With the Liberals so far behind in the polls does anyone take their announcements seriously anymore?

I don't know about you, but I'm far more interested in Pierre Poilievre's housing plan.
 
Brands said:
With the Liberals so far behind in the polls does anyone take their announcements seriously anymore?

I don't know about you, but I'm far more interested in Pierre Poilievre's housing plan.
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Working under the assumption that the Federal Liberal-NDP agreement might hold for another 12-ish months, so -- our volunteers work with the people who are actually in-power today.

Thus far, Pierre Poilievre's housing plan for "public lands" appears to be = SELL them all off quickly with no "affordable rental housing" development conditions required on those government land-sales

2023 - https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/full-text-pierre-poilievre-speech

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Looks like a comical lack of density for the first phase given the amount of land available, and the desire to include affordable housing while meeting TGS v4 T2. Very curious to see what kind of submissions they get for their RFEOI.
Also curious why they are marketing the site as fully zoned with a laundry list of outstanding items tied to the ominous (H) on their zoning.
 
nimby407 said:
Looks like a comical lack of density for the first phase given the amount of land available, and the desire to include affordable housing while meeting TGS v4 T2. Very curious to see what kind of submissions they get for their RFEOI.
Also curious why they are marketing the site as fully zoned with a laundry list of outstanding items tied to the ominous (H) on their zoning.
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I don't think that's a fair characterization.

This site is somewhat unique in the desire to preserve a large, established forest at its centre, which occupies a huge chunk of the site. I support that move, that not only takes a lot of land away, it also creates sunlight/shadow issues as the forest can't survive without minimum reasonable hours of sunlight.

Is there room for more density here, I think the answer is yes; but its a complex issue with lots of trade-offs.
 
A new ZBA is submitted here.

It does not seek to change the general height or massing of the proposal.

But it does seek to boost the unit count in phase 1 from 1,400 units to 1,700 units, largely by way tweaking certain performance standards, including, reducing the size of 2 and 3 bedroom units to 75m2 and 85m2 respectively. (807 to 914ft2)

I think a 2bdrm at that size can be viable...........I question that size in ft2 for a 3 bedroom. Units should be functional for their stated purpose. No new Arch Drawings were submitted so there is no functional layout to evaluate.

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Looks like Arbo is going to be BCL's first project:

Investing in critical housing infrastructure to supercharge homebuilding in Toronto - Canada.ca

Canadians are in a housing crisis. With the launch of Build Canada Homes, the government has stepped up with a bold new approach and unprecedented investments to increase the housing supply in Canada.
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Build Canada Homes’ first housing development project, delivering 540 new homes at Arbo Downsview in Toronto using modern methods of construction. At least 40% of the units on the Arbo Downsview site will be affordable, with a mix of studios, one-, two-, and three-bedroom homes, supporting middle class families. Build Canada Homes will launch a Request for Qualifications (RFQ) this week to identify Design-Build teams with proven expertise in factory-built housing and other modern methods of construction– including prefabrication, modular building, and mass timber – to ensure speed, affordability, and quality. Selected teams will also be required to prioritize Canadian resources – supporting home-grown industries and creating high-paying careers across the country.
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