Bjays92
Senior Member
Losing this design over this particular heritage building would be a damn shame. What’s being proposed will be genuine heritage in 30 years. What’s there right now is not.
Toronto 15-17 Elm | 99m | 30s | Fora | PARTISANS
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Northern Light
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Maybe.
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As noted above, I'm not yet sold the proposed design is real.
FORA has yet to deliver any of its ambitious looking proposals, I'd like to see at least one go forward so I can buy in....
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Second, while I agree this (existing) building is nothing grand, it does fit contextually into the streetscape. We have very little commercial heritage in this City, particularly of the continuous, full-block variety.
We tend to imagine preserving a facade for 3 units is sufficient, where I would argue it's borderline useless. It works so much better with appropriate context.
Our showiest row might be Front, opposite Berczy, and it's interrrupted by the SLC which is a giant carbunkle.
The HP design will improve this quite a bit, but I'd rather ditch the whole thing and have the original heritage rebuilt.
The facility that is the SLC can go anywhere.
In the same vein so can this Partisans design, it's lovely, stick it on Wellesley at Church, LOL.
I'm not really opposed to it here, per se, but I just lament that we can't keep the majority of one block as in tact heritage.
Northern Light
Superstar
This one is the subject of an Appeals Report with staff seeking to oppose this at OLT, heading to the next meeting of TEYCC:
The Applicant appealed in September.
Staff objections here are such that this probably merited a refusal report. I think they are worth looking at in detail:
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The City also disagrees with the proposal to remove one tree and injure another and not replace the tree.
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Summing up; inadequate separation with what is already extant; limits development opportunity for neighbouring sites with inadequate setback, destroys designated heritage, not consistent with contextual street wall, unacceptable wind conditions and may impair the Sick Kids helicopter flight path.
I don't see how OLT lets this one go ahead in its current form. I sure as hell hope it doesn't.
Too bad, interesting design, wrong site.
The Applicant appealed in September.
Staff objections here are such that this probably merited a refusal report. I think they are worth looking at in detail:
***** Hospital Helicopter Flightpath ****
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The City also disagrees with the proposal to remove one tree and injure another and not replace the tree.
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Summing up; inadequate separation with what is already extant; limits development opportunity for neighbouring sites with inadequate setback, destroys designated heritage, not consistent with contextual street wall, unacceptable wind conditions and may impair the Sick Kids helicopter flight path.
I don't see how OLT lets this one go ahead in its current form. I sure as hell hope it doesn't.
Too bad, interesting design, wrong site.
Northern Light
Superstar
Council's decision here was appealed to OLT, with the heritage designation separately appealed as well.
On the application itself, one CMC was held in January of this year, no merit hearing is yet scheduled.
The Heritage Application appears to be being adjudicated in sync w/this one.
On the application itself, one CMC was held in January of this year, no merit hearing is yet scheduled.
The Heritage Application appears to be being adjudicated in sync w/this one.
Northern Light
Superstar
FORA has applied for a demolition permit here for 15 Elm. (Which Council has designated as Heritage, said designation being currently appealed)
A report is headed to the next meeting of TEYCC recommending said request be refused:
A report is headed to the next meeting of TEYCC recommending said request be refused:
1Ć0
Active Member
Good catch. The first 50 or so metres (roughly 16 storeys) you won't be able to see bc of the TCHC building at 25 elm - which also has a blank wall at its east face.
The rest of the blank wall (above 50m) is likely bc Fora has not yet secured an LDA with TCHC. Presumably, the TCHC building will be redeveloped at some point...