ADRM
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Two -- one internalized at the front, and the second externalized at the rear. Everyone I know is assuming single stair is too much of a fight until/if it's actually real.
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Two -- one internalized at the front, and the second externalized at the rear. Everyone I know is assuming single stair is too much of a fight until/if it's actually real.
ADRM
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It sort of is, depending on how comfortable you can get yourself with what an acceptable condition is. As proposed, if the lot immediately beside this were to propose more or less the same form as is proposed here, you'd wind up with the staircase basically right up against a wall, or right up against another exterior staircase. That's less of a problem on this one because all the units are designed as dual aspect, but you likely wouldn't be able to make that work on the site to the west because you don't have the laneway to take advantage of there.
ADRM
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I think that's exactly right (and I do think it will be a very tough sell with Planning), and I think one argument in favour of this proposal would be to say that this specific lot calls for a different built form than the mid-block lots specifically because it abuts a laneway on its side (and that the building design responds to that context).
ProjectEnd
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Two. One inside at the south end, and another at the north end. Most impressive is that this is all through-units with external access.
I wouldn't count on those code changes coming too quickly. There's still lots of intransigence on permissible height and how wood can be counted towards fire-rating.
rdaner
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I see this being approved as it is very central and to my knowledge similar proposals have been approved. Also this is likely a design that is being included in the long-awaited catalogue of pre-approved buildings as Dubbledam is one of the participating firms.
And we haven’t even broached how people will react when they try to open a restaurant on the ground floor! Lol
And we haven’t even broached how people will react when they try to open a restaurant on the ground floor! Lol
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Amendments to the Official Plan and Zoning By-law for 14 Grange Avenue. The proposal is for a new 6-storey residential building with 42 units.jmi22
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Does the rear laneway (to the north of all properties on this block) not resolve the matter of the back stair case being up against a wall? This proposals back staircase doesn't actually empty out onto Grange Pl (north-south laneway) but instead the one I mentioned above shared by all houses on the block.
