Address: 11 Yorkville Ave, Toronto
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Update for January 31st, 2025:

From Yorkville just west of Hazelton:

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Now closer up:

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Note that the streetscaping is now substantially complete. Yorkville style pedestrian lighting installed, sidewalk done in interlock paving consistent w/the area treatment.

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Not a big fan of Yorkville-style lighting. Looks like post-mo kitsch ca.1985-93. But I guess they're consistent - even the public art in front of 2 Bloor West (on the Yonge side) fits the same style (or perhaps it was the inspiration for the motif?).
 
Not a big fan of Yorkville-style lighting. Looks like post-mo kitsch ca.1985-93. But I guess they're consistent - even the public art in front of 2 Bloor West (on the Yonge side) fits the same style (or perhaps it was the inspiration for the motif?).

The shape/style (not colour) is meant to echo the heritage of 'The Village of Yorkville', which I can appreciate. That much of the heritage architecture has been lost or molested.....

The colour is, of course not heritage, I don't know where that originated.....

I do know the BIA did a survey many years ago asking about people's visual identification with the area.......and the lighting was the number one thing people recognized/associated w/Yorkville. So its become almost untouchable.

It was controversial to remove it from Bloor when the granite sidewalks went in; there had been a desire to replace the high-mast lights on Bloor with something more haute, but Toronto Hydro nixed it.
 
The shape/style (not colour) is meant to echo the heritage of 'The Village of Yorkville', which I can appreciate. That much of the heritage architecture has been lost or molested.....

The colour is, of course not heritage, I don't know where that originated.....

I do know the BIA did a survey many years ago asking about people's visual identification with the area.......and the lighting was the number one thing people recognized/associated w/Yorkville. So its become almost untouchable.

It was controversial to remove it from Bloor when the granite sidewalks went in; there had been a desire to replace the high-mast lights on Bloor with something more haute, but Toronto Hydro nixed it.
I do appreciate this style of lighting (sphere on top of a tall pole) as it appears in Rosedale (I think Chestnut Park is lined with them). However, the poles are black, not blue. I also think these lamp posts fit better in the tree-lined setting of Rosedale, along with arts-and-crafts style houses. Not so much along that part of Yorkville Avenue, now filled almost exclusively with modern high rises.
 
I do appreciate this style of lighting (sphere on top of a tall pole) as it appears in Rosedale (I think Chestnut Park is lined with them). However, the poles are black, not blue. I also think these lamp posts fit better in the tree-lined setting of Rosedale, along with arts-and-crafts style houses. Not so much along that part of Yorkville Avenue, now filled almost exclusively with modern high rises.

While I'm not sure the current choice would be my exact preference........... ...I have to say there are very few 'modern' styles of pedestrian lights I like. Even in jet black ( a fine colour) the tendency toward straight-lines and utilitarian expression can be dull.

There are other pseudo-heritage styles I'm also fond of.....like the pedestrian lighting of the boardwalk in the eastern beaches which has a 'deco' styling to it, and is dark-skies friendly.

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These could be done in black.

I dunno. How about an example of a style you'd prefer?
 
While I'm not sure the current choice would be my exact preference........... ...I have to say there are very few 'modern' styles of pedestrian lights I like. Even in jet black ( a fine colour) the tendency toward straight-lines and utilitarian expression can be dull.

There are other pseudo-heritage styles I'm also fond of.....like the pedestrian lighting of the boardwalk in the eastern beaches which has a 'deco' styling to it, and is dark-skies friendly.

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These could be done in black.

I dunno. How about an example of a style you'd prefer?
I was walking around Bay & Bloor today, and noticed a variation of the blue post with a single round sphere - on major streets (Bay, Yonge, I think Bloor and Avenue too, it’s a cluster of 3 spheres instead. I don’t mind those, especially with a notch for flower/ greenery on the post.

For me it’s hard to pick the style that I like. It very much depends on the context - a style that works well for leafy residential streets with older houses/ buildings may not fit in on streets lined with modern glass skyscrapers, and vice versa. Obviously, not every street in the city needs to be a ‘signature’ street, so a functional modern lamp post may be fine for them too. The funny thing about streetscapes (lamp posts, sidewalk,, buried vs exposed cables etc) is that you don’t really pay a lot of attention to them, but often you’re immediately struck by how pleasant/ blah the street is thanks to them, and only when you look at the individual parts that you notice these contributing elements.
 
I was walking around Bay & Bloor today, and noticed a variation of the blue post with a single round sphere - on major streets (Bay, Yonge, I think Bloor and Avenue too, it’s a cluster of 3 spheres instead. I don’t mind those, especially with a notch for flower/ greenery on the post.

The standard public realm spec for Yorkville is the cluster light version on major roads (as used to be the case on Bloor) as well as the intersections of side streets, example of the latter:


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Single fixture lights are for use on side streets, non-intersection.

The idea was to scale the fixture to the size of the ROW, but intersections were given prominence w/the larger fixtures.

For me it’s hard to pick the style that I like. It very much depends on the context - a style that works well for leafy residential streets with older houses/ buildings may not fit in on streets lined with modern glass skyscrapers, and vice versa.

I agree. I was thinking of a fixture you might prefer in this context.

Obviously, not every street in the city needs to be a ‘signature’ street, so a functional modern lamp post may be fine for them too. The funny thing about streetscapes (lamp posts, sidewalk,, buried vs exposed cables etc) is that you don’t really pay a lot of attention to them, but often you’re immediately struck by how pleasant/ blah the street is thanks to them, and only when you look at the individual parts that you notice these contributing elements.

I don't want to divert the thread too much to urban lighting design.......but just to play this tangent out a tiny bit further..... I decided to go looking for a modern design that might be appealing. What do you think of this one:

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From: https://www.landscapeforms.com/products/alcott-area-light

And this one:

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Source: https://archello.com/story/137997/attachments/photos-videos/5
 
The standard public realm spec for Yorkville is the cluster light version on major roads (as used to be the case on Bloor) as well as the intersections of side streets, example of the latter:


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Single fixture lights are for use on side streets, non-intersection.

The idea was to scale the fixture to the size of the ROW, but intersections were given prominence w/the larger fixtures.



I agree. I was thinking of a fixture you might prefer in this context.



I don't want to divert the thread too much to urban lighting design.......but just to play this tangent out a tiny bit further..... I decided to go looking for a modern design that might be appealing. What do you think of this one:

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From: https://www.landscapeforms.com/products/alcott-area-light

And this one:

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Source: https://archello.com/story/137997/attachments/photos-videos/5
I wouldn’t call those ugly, but not really my taste either. In general, I prefer more classic styles, like the original black post with a single globe in Rosedale, or the gas-light style lamps on Old Town / St Lawrence Market, but I know they’re not for every streets. As I said, most street lighting sort of fades into the background, so I’ll have to look at my favorite streets / neighborhoods and see what the lamp posts look like there.
 
I wouldn’t call those ugly, but not really my taste either. In general, I prefer more classic styles, like the original black post with a single globe in Rosedale, or the gas-light style lamps on Old Town / St Lawrence Market, but I know they’re not for every streets. As I said, most street lighting sort of fades into the background, so I’ll have to look at my favorite streets / neighborhoods and see what the lamp posts look like there.

I generally prefer the heritage styles as well and was just interested in those as sort of default options for non-signature streets.
 
Something about the cladding makes the whole building look unfinished to me. Looks like insulated panels waiting to be covered. Also, way too many mullions. The step backs look great. Although, imagine what a show stopper this could have been with exterior finishes like nearby Uptown Residences.
 
Something about the cladding makes the whole building look unfinished to me. Looks like insulated panels waiting to be covered. Also, way too many mullions. The step backs look great. Although, imagine what a show stopper this could have been with exterior finishes like nearby Uptown Residences.
I keep saying that better materials would of saved this building. Need to look at the Four Seasons nearby to demonstrate this...

...but a good tower should never make one cringe when they're looking at it. /sigh
 

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